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Who will you vote for on June 8th

Conservative
122
23%
Labour
283
54%
Lib Dem
15
3%
SNP
36
7%
Green
6
1%
UKIP
21
4%
Other inc No Vote
37
7%
 
Total votes: 520

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Judgee wrote:Never argued in favour of wealth going to the few that's just your incorrect/chosen interpretation of my opinion!
Yes - you have Judgee, wether you realise it or not. It was implicit in your argument, and the conclusions of it ie. a vote for the Conservatives.
You are going to vote to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. That takes a lot of understanding when a working man does it. Not so much when a rich man does it.

Judgee wrote:Labour are making promises that could totally devastate the economy...
Its already been devastated - it happened in 2008. It happened due to the deregulation of financial services brought in by the Conservative Party on behalf of the City. It happened because of fractional reserve banking and a private debt (not public BTW) based economy. It happened because politicians were in/are in the pockets of wealthy financiers. It happened because of "Too Big To Fail" banks, and their usurious exploitation of ordinary people and nations.




Judgee wrote:and ultimately lead to massive tax rises not just for the wealthy but for all despite their promises.
TBT already today trashed that argument. Why do you insist on repeating lies ?
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Conservative
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Wonder how many of the Conservative voters know that Theresa May wants to reintroduce fox hunting.

Completely deplorable, and sums up perfectly who the conservatives represent, the privileged elite.
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Uncle Tom :- In short terms, Uncle Tom is labeled to persons, similar to "snitch", "betrayer" and "whistle-blower", whose motive is under the impression "That's [practice of slavery] just how the society works", whether the impression is spontaneous or coerced.

The term "Uncle Tom" is used as a derogatory epithet for an excessively subservient person, particularly when that person perceives their own lower-class status based on race. It is similarly used to negatively describe a person who betrays their own group by participating in its oppression, whether or not they do so willingly.[1][11] The term has also, with more intended neutrality, been applied in psychology in the form "Uncle Tom syndrome", a term for the use of subservience, appeasement and passivity to cope with intimidation and threats.


Could the term be equally applied to the Tory postie ?

Just putting the idea out there folks - no offence intended.
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jetblack wrote:
Judgee wrote:Never argued in favour of wealth going to the few that's just your incorrect/chosen interpretation of my opinion!
1/ Yes - you have Judgee, wether you realise it or not. It was implicit in your argument, and the conclusions of it ie. a vote for the Conservatives.
You are going to vote to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. That takes a lot of understanding when a working man does it. Not so much when a rich man does it.

Judgee wrote:Labour are making promises that could totally devastate the economy...
2/Its already been devastated - it happened in 2008. It happened due to the deregulation of financial services brought in by the Conservative Party on behalf of the City. It happened because of fractional reserve banking and a private debt (not public BTW) based economy. It happened because politicians were in/are in the pockets of wealthy financiers. It happened because of "Too Big To Fail" banks, and their usurious exploitation of ordinary people and nations.




Judgee wrote:and ultimately lead to massive tax rises not just for the wealthy but for all despite their promises.
3/ TBT already today trashed that argument. Why do you insist on repeating lies ?
1/No I haven't you just assume voting Tory means that just as you assume voting Labour means voting for the working man. Your opinion not fact and it's not black and white like that despite what you would like to believe!

2/Both Labour and the Tories have damaged the economy in the past, it can still get a lot worse under a Labour Government they are known as the "tax and spend" party for a reason.

3/TBT did not destroy the argument that Labour could raise taxes for all except maybe in your mind. They have said they will do it for the higher earners which will fail as to fulfil all their promises their maths doesn't add up. So either they will not complete their promises or they will have to raise the money elsewhere like they have done in the past.

Typical die hard Labour, totally blinkered and under some illusion that Labour never lie or break promises. Would have thought have a previous leader that is practically a war criminal you would have learned not to believe everything your beloved leaders tell you! :cuppa


"cock" In short terms labour voter completely blinkered and gullible quoting shite to make themselves feel more important! Just throwing it out there!
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http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016 ... -70-years/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

still asking for your opinion of this given your stance labour is worse on the economy than conservatives?
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and which of these don't add up?
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feduppostie wrote:http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016 ... -70-years/

still asking for your opinion of this given your stance labour is worse on the economy than conservatives?
I don't care what the labour or Tories did 70 years ago what the hell has that got to do with anything it's irrelevant. Go back far enough and you can find anything to back up an argument. I had a discussion with a Spurs supporter the other day who was going on about how they always beat WHU, but over the last ten years it was fairly even!

Please carry on arguing if you like, I think your full of it and no doubt you think the same of me. My votes with the Tories and they'll get in the same way Sadiq Khan and Donald Trump got in. Not because they were what people wanted but because they were not quite as bad as the alternatives.

For the poster about ending the fox hunting ban I think it's appalling but I'm not going to vote for a party just because they'll be nicer to foxes!

Anyone voting Labour because they offered up renationalisation ask yourself how this will improve anything with RM at all. Was working for RM any better before privatisation or were we still being beaten with a stick just by a different master?
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Judgee wrote:
Anyone voting Labour because they offered up renationalisation ask yourself how this will improve anything with RM at all. Was working for RM any better before privatisation or were we still being beaten with a stick just by a different master?
Dear Judgee,

I reckon you must have taken leave of your senses buddy :- do a bit of research here on this very forum. Take deep breaths and count to 10.

Yours

Cock
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feduppostie wrote:and which of these don't add up?
Sourced from?

Just a quick flick through you can see it doesn't add up how can you not? Where is the cost of renationalising RM? Keep searching though! :thumbup
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Judgee wrote:
feduppostie wrote:http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016 ... -70-years/

still asking for your opinion of this given your stance labour is worse on the economy than conservatives?
I don't care what the labour or Tories did 70 years ago what the hell has that got to do with anything it's irrelevant. Go back far enough and you can find anything to back up an argument. I had a discussion with a Spurs supporter the other day who was going on about how they always beat WHU, but over the last ten years it was fairly even!

Please carry on arguing if you like, I think your full of it and no doubt you think the same of me. My votes with the Tories and they'll get in the same way Sadiq Khan and Donald Trump got in. Not because they were what people wanted but because they were not quite as bad as the alternatives.

For the poster about ending the fox hunting ban I think it's appalling but I'm not going to vote for a party just because they'll be nicer to foxes!

Anyone voting Labour because they offered up renationalisation ask yourself how this will improve anything with RM at all. Was working for RM any better before privatisation or were we still being beaten with a stick just by a different master?
you didn't read the link did you? Nothing about 70 years ago rather it is the record of the Labour Party and the Conservative Party's borrowing and repaying over the last 70 years - let me save you some time the conservatives borrowed more than Labour and paid back less than Labour - blows your Labour is worse with money argument out the water somewhat - damn those facts!

Seriously I hope you put more effort into your research into who to vote for than you did that link otherwise you would be voting without knowing all the facts - surely you wouldn't do that would you?
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jetblack wrote:
Judgee wrote:
Anyone voting Labour because they offered up renationalisation ask yourself how this will improve anything with RM at all. Was working for RM any better before privatisation or were we still being beaten with a stick just by a different master?
Dear Judgee,

I reckon you must have taken leave of your senses buddy :- do a bit of research here on this very forum. Take deep breaths and count to 10.

Yours

Cock
Dear jetblack,

I reckon you must have been sniffing your collection of Socialist Worker. You think things will improve being renationalised! :left:

Cock
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feduppostie wrote: Seriously I hope you put more effort into your research into who to vote for than you did that link otherwise you would be voting without knowing all the facts - surely you wouldn't do that would you?
He would :d'oh!
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Judgee wrote:
jetblack wrote:
Judgee wrote:
Anyone voting Labour because they offered up renationalisation ask yourself how this will improve anything with RM at all. Was working for RM any better before privatisation or were we still being beaten with a stick just by a different master?
Dear Judgee,

I reckon you must have taken leave of your senses buddy :- do a bit of research here on this very forum. Take deep breaths and count to 10.

Yours

Cock
Dear jetblack,

I reckon you must have been sniffing your collection of Socialist Worker. You think things will improve being renationalised! :left:

Cock
Judgee - I'm confused now. Who is the cock and who is the Uncle Tom ? Me or you ?

BTW - I don't think mine eyes have graced the pages of the Socialist Worker in about 25 years - and then it wasn't for long.

Lets get back to the policies hey. I'll take back the Uncle Tom comment if you'll take back the cock.

Hows that for you ?
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beginning to think he is ignoring me - no idea why he doesn't want to offer answers to my reasonable and well sourced arguments :funneh