the 'sweetener' to change all contracts to driving duties.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 21 Sep 2016, 20:02

wacko74 wrote:I wouldn't be at all surprised if the ultimate aim is to go down the road of franchising off the walks so we're effectively self-employed, as most other couriers currently do.

Well it is a natural progression

>Single Daily Delivery
>Park and Loop
>Collection on Delivery
>Desktop Merging
> One Pass
>Singleton standard 6hr Van delivery
>Franchise

WOBBLY · Post by **WOBBLY** » 22 Sep 2016, 18:22

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
wacko74 wrote:I wouldn't be at all surprised if the ultimate aim is to go down the road of franchising off the walks so we're effectively self-employed, as most other couriers currently do.
Well it is a natural progression

>Single Daily Delivery
>Park and Loop
>Collection on Delivery
>Desktop Merging
> One Pass
>Singleton standard 6hr Van delivery
>Franchise

Whats desktop merging? The rest I get!

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 22 Sep 2016, 19:08

Get rid of the frames, flats come with the sequence and any manual letters or small packets are added "on the bench", of course marking for large packets and specials as needed.

viking1488 · Post by **viking1488** » 23 Sep 2016, 16:00

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Get rid of the frames, flats come with the sequence and any manual letters or small packets are added "on the bench", of course marking for large packets and specials as needed.

ok but what will happen to people who dont drive and who have been in rm for many years if this rumour is true im asking you because i know i will get a good answer

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 23 Sep 2016, 16:36

I don't think that every single duty will be a van duty. There are a few town duties at our depot that use (and will probably always use) a hct. And actually they get more revenue via business mail.

19times · Post by **19times** » 23 Sep 2016, 19:53

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Get rid of the frames, flats come with the sequence and any manual letters or small packets are added "on the bench", of course marking for large packets and specials as needed.

Will not work... bit like everything Royal Mail are trying lately.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 24 Sep 2016, 11:15

viking1488 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Get rid of the frames, flats come with the sequence and any manual letters or small packets are added "on the bench", of course marking for large packets and specials as needed.
ok but what will happen to people who dont drive and who have been in rm for many years if this rumour is true im asking you because i know i will get a good answer

Its will be the usual methods RM use to reduce headcount

They'll offer VR to some.
They'll dismiss others who fall foul of the Conduct Code.
They'll put them on HCT or indoor Duties
They'll offer transfers to Mail Centres.
They may offer assistance to pass a driving test. (Unlikely)
They may even train people up (extremely unlikely)
In the end, they could go down the Compulsory Redundancy route but the chance of this is pretty slim because the Union and RM have an agreement against them, and if the business went against it, it would be an outright declaration of war.

Post by **97gaz** » 24 Sep 2016, 12:21

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 24 Sep 2016, 13:06

datasaint · Post by **datasaint** » 24 Sep 2016, 13:39

TrueBlueTerrier wrote: In the end, they could go down the Compulsory Redundancy route but the chance of this is pretty slim because the Union and RM have an agreement against them, and if the business went against it, it would be an outright declaration of war.

In a compulsory redundancy situation would those with the least seniority be first to go?

ScousePostie · Post by **ScousePostie** » 24 Sep 2016, 14:07

Transferring walks to HCTs would be hilarious for our office as DOM has put majority of HCT walks into van shares at the beginning of the year.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 24 Sep 2016, 14:23

norm wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: In the end, they could go down the Compulsory Redundancy route but the chance of this is pretty slim because the Union and RM have an agreement against them, and if the business went against it, it would be an outright declaration of war.
In a compulsory redundancy situation would those with the least seniority be first to go?

All bets would be off as it would be an un-agreed executive action. Essentially they could make anyone redundant, or any precept as long as it was legal and they "consulted" the employees.

Post by **IloveMYredTROLLEY!** » 24 Sep 2016, 16:55

ScousePostie wrote:Transferring walks to HCTs would be hilarious for our office as DOM has put majority of HCT walks into van shares at the beginning of the year.

All walks that that have part of the duty within 1 mile of the depot should by HCT duties, or so I thought.

However, we have some oddities at my depot, where some nearby duties are being done by van. Makes no sense to me, all that money spent on a vehicle and ongoing costs, when a HCT will cost peanuts in comparison and maybe add 10-20 minutes tops to the delivery span (maybe less if vans get stopped at traffic lights).

Post by **celtic1967** » 24 Sep 2016, 17:27

Depressing reading, its at times like this Im glad Ive only got 5 years til I go.

Acca Dacca · Post by **Acca Dacca** » 24 Sep 2016, 21:13

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Get rid of the frames, flats come with the sequence and any manual letters or small packets are added "on the bench", of course marking for large packets and specials as needed.

What is a bench and how do u add parcels and manual without a frame?