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perils of dropping out of the union.

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Judgee
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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Well rather than a walkout perhaps someone could give him some advice.

He has gone in as requested and it is making him worse. Therefore he has attempted to accommodate the managers wishes but it is now affecting his physical well being. He should explain this to ATOS when they call and advise them that he will be returning to his own Doctor to explain the situation and will not go back to work, even on light duties, until his own Doctor feels he is good and ready.

ATOS can request that he gives their own "specialist" a visit but ultimately he can follow his own Doctors advice. He could also point out that the whole situation is making him depressed and that the more pressure that is being put upon him from his manager to go on light duties, the more depressed he is feeling. Which I expect is very much true!

I'm sure if you backed him up Davey it would be enough for him to stand his ground. Sometimes it just takes a little support for someone to feel strong enough to stand up for themselves! :wink:

It also might be a good idea for him to rejoin the union at some time in the near future.
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
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daveyeff
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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a walk out has been mentioned but it wont happen because he's not in the union. a least thats what a rep said. anyways,a couple of developments.......ATOS rang him last night, he said the woman was going apeshit on the phone, saying they had absolutely no right to tell him to go into work, he could exacerbate his injury. she said he was to stay off until july 2nd.and was emailing the gaffer today to tell him her views........guess what...the lad says DOMs be on phone today, and told him they are challenging the ATOS decision. he asked him if he would come in today. he said no,,,,get in touch with ATOS. its getting interesting.
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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Just....f***ing.....walk!!!
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daveyeff
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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reps won't agree. so people won't. what do you do?
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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Have a word with the Health & Safety Officer in your work place, get him/her to state it is unsafe for him to be in work also ask this pr#ck of a manager to show you his qualifications on being a Doctor.
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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A walk out won't happen because he's not in the union. :roll:

It's a health and safety issue,you don't have to be in a f***ing union to follow the laws of the land. :no no
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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the manager that colluded with the DOM is a health and safety manager as well. they must all be tarred with the same shitted brush.
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

Post by bustedflush »

daveyeff wrote:totally agree judgee he cant have representation as he doesn't pay the 350 a week. but it shows what they've got in mind for us in future
Opt out of the political levy - down to £2.45 per week now! :dance
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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I'm losing the will.

EDIT:Behave yourself POSTMAN.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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daveyeff
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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me mate reckons its dodgey talking about walk outs on a forum, so im knocking it on the head
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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Altrider wrote:If he has been signed off sick for 8 weeks he should legally not be in the workplace at all. He needs to check with CAB who will freely advice. If you are signed off sick you are signed off sick - it is not a grey area.
There is no such law which states if off sick/signed off sick that it's illegal to be in workplace or even working
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

Post by aiden01 »

zx135 wrote:
Altrider wrote:If he has been signed off sick for 8 weeks he should legally not be in the workplace at all. He needs to check with CAB who will freely advice. If you are signed off sick you are signed off sick - it is not a grey area.
There is no such law which states if off sick/signed off sick that it's illegal to be in workplace or even working
don,t know if it,s illegal but why would you be signed off sick I presume by a doctor if you are able to work :crazy:
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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aiden01 wrote:
zx135 wrote:
Altrider wrote:If he has been signed off sick for 8 weeks he should legally not be in the workplace at all. He needs to check with CAB who will freely advice. If you are signed off sick you are signed off sick - it is not a grey area.
There is no such law which states if off sick/signed off sick that it's illegal to be in workplace or even working
don,t know if it,s illegal but why would you be signed off sick I presume by a doctor if you are able to work :crazy:
There could be many reasons why doc signs as unfit, ie you could be signed of as unfit for work with stress, you would be physically capable to do the work but still signed off as unfit to work.
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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There are no perils you have the same employment rights as union members and if you do have a problem ten minuets on google will tell you all you need to know.
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Re: perils of dropping out of the union.

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Huxon wrote:There are no perils you have the same employment rights as union members and if you do have a problem ten minuets on google will tell you all you need to know.
nobody is saying they don't have the same rights. they have....as a point though.....he has rejoined the union and management have backed straight off.
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