Mail Figures

[Luke Skywalker]

The average container fill is set by the mail centre not by the DOM. It is updated automatically by the mail centre every few months so is changeable. Therefore an 8 minute timescale to do a tray of letters is complete bullocks as that timescale would also change in-line with the average container fill.

[rubberbond]

What's a Wendy ?

My sister and she has a house.

[OnAFlyer]

The average container fill is set by the mail centre not by the DOM. It is updated automatically by the mail centre every few months so is changeable. Therefore an 8 minute timescale to do a tray of letters is complete bullocks as that timescale would also change in-line with the average container fill.

We were told 185 packets in a shroud, so our rep counted every shroud coming into the office for a couple of days. The lowest was around 150 and the ones with loads of small overseas parcels had well over 300 in. The average was around 235 if I remember.

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

I love the days I arrive at my frame, seeing the sequenced trays by frame and thinking "just the normal 2 trays of sequenced letters." I then proceed to start throwing them in, only I'm literally struggling to remove my first bunch of letters from each tray, because they have unusually been rammed full to the hilt...

400+ letters in each, rather than the far more typical ~200 letters per tray. Four "real" trays of sequenced then, that takes more indoor time, leaves less outdoor until contract finish time.

[villan]

We were told that a tray of manual letters contained 175 letters, tray of flats was 38, Wendy of parcels was 184 and yorke of bulk parcels was 20. Now these figures seem strange to us as in they seem low and therefore affects our indoor sorting figures and in turn our prep and get out times. We have counted contents of trays ourselves and our figures are higher than the DOM's. that's why I was/am looking to see if there is an agreed figure between RM and CWU on this, do all delivery offices use the above figures?

Just out of interest I manually counted the letters in two of my mech trays one day. They were both full and each contained approximately 330 letters. So nearly double the 175 figure you were told.

[The Goats Toe]

We were told that a tray of manual letters contained 175 letters, tray of flats was 38, Wendy of parcels was 184 and yorke of bulk parcels was 20. Now these figures seem strange to us as in they seem low and therefore affects our indoor sorting figures and in turn our prep and get out times. We have counted contents of trays ourselves and our figures are higher than the DOM's. that's why I was/am looking to see if there is an agreed figure between RM and CWU on this, do all delivery offices use the above figures?

Just out of interest I manually counted the letters in two of my mech trays one day. They were both full and each contained approximately 330 letters. So nearly double the 175 figure you were told.

Exactly! So we are delivering more mail then their 'figures' suggest, so, why then, is our DOM not pushing his superiors on this? Surely he would want credited with this plus the fact his budget would need to change? Mail is down, granted, but maybe the way it's 'counted' also is a serious contributing factor

[Luke Skywalker]

You are not actually delivering more mail, the average container fill is kinda irrelevant cause whether you have two hundred in two trays or 400 in one it all adds up to the same. It only affects the indoor work and that would be how many trays are moved from lorry to frames. That's my understanding anyway. The total volume would be the same.

[SpacePhoenix]

We were told that a tray of manual letters contained 175 letters, tray of flats was 38, Wendy of parcels was 184 and yorke of bulk parcels was 20. Now these figures seem strange to us as in they seem low and therefore affects our indoor sorting figures and in turn our prep and get out times. We have counted contents of trays ourselves and our figures are higher than the DOM's. that's why I was/am looking to see if there is an agreed figure between RM and CWU on this, do all delivery offices use the above figures?

Never heard of a "Wendy" before, is that a term local to you for a red sleeve?

I'd be surprised if any machine were calibrated on a regular basis as generally as soon as mech staff have finished running the work through they'll be on manual letters or large letters or parcels. There is no ACF for mech letters as the figure used comes from what the machine has counted