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andy2007
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I tried to get my H&S Rep to help.
We had an accident a few weeks ago, where a trailer door fell, and hit the top cage of a 2 stack as one of my collegues was driving onto it on a Scud. The top cage was nocked off, and ended up impaled on the Cage Guard. If she hadn't ducked as quickly as she did, it would have hit her on the head. As it was, she got away with bruising, as the Guard absorbed most of the impact.
Because she didn't require any treatment. The manager insisted that it should go in the Near Miss Book, which I thought was completely wrong (I saw the accident happen), and informed him that it should have gone in the Accident Book (when did they put it on computer? no-one told us!!!!!). When he told me that he couldn't as there were no injuries, I asked my H&S Rep to put him right. But he told me that there was nothing he could do about it.
I've been on holiday for the last 2 weeks, and have done a bit of research. It turns out that they were both wrong! It's too late to put the incident above in the Accident Book, Computer Records, or whatever. But believe me. If there's another accident that they try to avoid recording properly I WILL GET ON TO HSE PERSONALLY!!!!! You have my word on that!
Because she didn't require any treatment. The manager insisted that it should go in the Near Miss Book, which I thought was completely wrong (I saw the accident happen), and informed him that it should have gone in the Accident Book (when did they put it on computer? no-one told us!!!!!). When he told me that he couldn't as there were no injuries, I asked my H&S Rep to put him right. But he told me that there was nothing he could do about it.
I've been on holiday for the last 2 weeks, and have done a bit of research. It turns out that they were both wrong! It's too late to put the incident above in the Accident Book, Computer Records, or whatever. But believe me. If there's another accident that they try to avoid recording properly I WILL GET ON TO HSE PERSONALLY!!!!! You have my word on that!
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it's just another outlook on Reality!
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brothermagrew
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Re: I tried to get my H&S Rep to help.
Andy m8 only a suggestion:andy2007 wrote:We had an accident a few weeks ago, where a trailer door fell, and hit the top cage of a 2 stack as one of my collegues was driving onto it on a Scud. The top cage was nocked off, and ended up impaled on the Cage Guard. If she hadn't ducked as quickly as she did, it would have hit her on the head. As it was, she got away with bruising, as the Guard absorbed most of the impact.
Because she didn't require any treatment. The manager insisted that it should go in the Near Miss Book, which I thought was completely wrong (I saw the accident happen), and informed him that it should have gone in the Accident Book (when did they put it on computer? no-one told us!!!!!). When he told me that he couldn't as there were no injuries, I asked my H&S Rep to put him right. But he told me that there was nothing he could do about it.
I've been on holiday for the last 2 weeks, and have done a bit of research. It turns out that they were both wrong! It's too late to put the incident above in the Accident Book, Computer Records, or whatever. But believe me. If there's another accident that they try to avoid recording properly I WILL GET ON TO HSE PERSONALLY!!!!! You have my word on that!
Have you or your female colleague ever considered writing directly to our CWU National Health, Safety and Environment Officer (Dave Joyce) at CWU HQ with all the relevant facts as they relate to the accident and ask him to investigate why it wasn't recorded by the manager under the new ERICA system.
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IWW Fellow Worker
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Re: I tried to get my H&S Rep to help.
If it's anything like my manager, he couldnt find the page on ERICA to register the accident.brothermagrew wrote:Have you or your female colleague ever considered writing directly to our CWU National Health, Safety and Environment Officer (Dave Joyce) at CWU HQ with all the relevant facts as they relate to the accident and ask him to investigate why it wasn't recorded by the manager under the new ERICA system.
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andy2007
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Thanks Brothermagrew
Thanks for the advice. I'll have a word with her tomorrow, and if she is interested in taking it further, We'll send him an Email. Otherwise, I'll send him one asking him to make sure that something is done to ensure that accidents are reported properly at NWRDC in the future.
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
it's just another outlook on Reality!
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Zorro
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freespeech wrote:No, just sexist!Zorro wrote: I am not a girl, so your half-arsed bully boy tactics wont work on me!
Ok! What happened was:
I was on holiday last week and a young girl who posts on here was taken into the office for posting "negative thoughts about Royal Mail" They threatened to sack her!.
I just hope and pray they try it with me
Hey Postman, did you know that you cant view this site from the Bristol Mail Centre? They blocked you! :cfo :lfo
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bandit650
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Re: To The Royal Mail Snoops & Spies Who Lurk On Here
im not a girl, so your half-arsed bully boy tactics wont work on me![/quote]
Well im a girl and you come into our DO and ask for me and most blokes run for cover along with the twats that run the joint.
Well im a girl and you come into our DO and ask for me and most blokes run for cover along with the twats that run the joint.
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bandit650
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Re: I tried to get my H&S Rep to help.
Its an incident and should be recorded as such and if you want somthing recorded as an accident then go to local DSS office and inform them about what happened and that RM are refusing to put into the book light the touch paper and stand back once the DSS get involved they s***t themselves as the H&S will turn up to inspect we did it at our office.if you ever have a problem at getting the govners to do thier job then tell them your go to the DSS and register the accident and make sure you do dont bluff.andy2007 wrote:We had an accident a few weeks ago, where a trailer door fell, and hit the top cage of a 2 stack as one of my collegues was driving onto it on a Scud. The top cage was nocked off, and ended up impaled on the Cage Guard. If she hadn't ducked as quickly as she did, it would have hit her on the head. As it was, she got away with bruising, as the Guard absorbed most of the impact.
Because she didn't require any treatment. The manager insisted that it should go in the Near Miss Book, which I thought was completely wrong (I saw the accident happen), and informed him that it should have gone in the Accident Book (when did they put it on computer? no-one told us!!!!!). When he told me that he couldn't as there were no injuries, I asked my H&S Rep to put him right. But he told me that there was nothing he could do about it.
I've been on holiday for the last 2 weeks, and have done a bit of research. It turns out that they were both wrong! It's too late to put the incident above in the Accident Book, Computer Records, or whatever. But believe me. If there's another accident that they try to avoid recording properly I WILL GET ON TO HSE PERSONALLY!!!!! You have my word on that!
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norbet colon
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THRIVING ON IT'S OWN CORRUPTION
You can also have deliberate accidents and you don't just threaten to report it , that's letting people off the hook ,ACT LIKE A AMATEUR &YOU WILL BE TREATED LIKE A AMATEUR , take it outside the PO as mentioned above . Not everyone is protected , there's ways & means.bandit650 wrote:Its an incident and should be recorded as such and if you want somthing recorded as an accident then go to local DSS office and inform them about what happened and that RM are refusing to put into the book light the touch paper and stand back once the DSS get involved they s***t themselves as the H&S will turn up to inspect we did it at our office.if you ever have a problem at getting the govners to do thier job then tell them your go to the DSS and register the accident and make sure you do dont bluff.andy2007 wrote:We had an accident a few weeks ago, where a trailer door fell, and hit the top cage of a 2 stack as one of my collegues was driving onto it on a Scud. The top cage was nocked off, and ended up impaled on the Cage Guard. If she hadn't ducked as quickly as she did, it would have hit her on the head. As it was, she got away with bruising, as the Guard absorbed most of the impact.
Because she didn't require any treatment. The manager insisted that it should go in the Near Miss Book, which I thought was completely wrong (I saw the accident happen), and informed him that it should have gone in the Accident Book (when did they put it on computer? no-one told us!!!!!). When he told me that he couldn't as there were no injuries, I asked my H&S Rep to put him right. But he told me that there was nothing he could do about it.
I've been on holiday for the last 2 weeks, and have done a bit of research. It turns out that they were both wrong! It's too late to put the incident above in the Accident Book, Computer Records, or whatever. But believe me. If there's another accident that they try to avoid recording properly I WILL GET ON TO HSE PERSONALLY!!!!! You have my word on that!
There's orders from high that noone gives RM any H&S problems as they've been threatened with a HSE investigation .
The insurance claims manager said he'd never heard so much rubbish about accidents becoming incidents in years.
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the brynau
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Re: To The Royal Mail Snoops & Spies Who Lurk On Here
you sound like a DOM to me - got something to hide zorro ??Zorro wrote:My name is Zorro and i work at Bristol Mail Centre on the night shift.
Royal Mail is the worst company i have ever had the mis-fortune to work for, they are a complete and utter joke!
Most Line Managers/Work Area Managers haven’t a clue how to do their job. At best they are totally inept.
If you would like to speak to me, ask any afternoon or night shift manager and they will point you in my direction. If that is too difficult for them, ask any postperson.
Now you know who i am, please, please attempt to take me into the office for being negative about Royal Mail and Royal Mail management and i will show you incompetent idiots, exactly what stupid, useless, mindless waste of spaces, you really are.
I am not a girl, so your half-arsed bully boy tactics wont work on me!
smokescreens always move.
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norbet colon
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Re: To The Royal Mail Snoops & Spies Who Lurk On Here
Arrange these words in order Pot , Kettle & Blackthe brynau wrote:you sound like a DOM to me - got something to hide zorro ??Zorro wrote:My name is Zorro and i work at Bristol Mail Centre on the night shift.
Royal Mail is the worst company i have ever had the mis-fortune to work for, they are a complete and utter joke!
Most Line Managers/Work Area Managers haven’t a clue how to do their job. At best they are totally inept.
If you would like to speak to me, ask any afternoon or night shift manager and they will point you in my direction. If that is too difficult for them, ask any postperson.
Now you know who i am, please, please attempt to take me into the office for being negative about Royal Mail and Royal Mail management and i will show you incompetent idiots, exactly what stupid, useless, mindless waste of spaces, you really are.
I am not a girl, so your half-arsed bully boy tactics wont work on me!
smokescreens always move.
I'm inclined to be suspicious of someone who mentions a infamous Hellmail Propoganda Plant & uses the same tactics .
RM do not do criticisim or contradiction and arrogantly always know best , unfortuanately they can be very obtuse & tend to clutch at straws apparently !
I'm sure this has nothing to do with union-bashing LOL like any organisation with institutionalised bullying they don't like it up them as Corporal Jones used to say .
Can't think that RM has anything to hide of course!
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drewsie
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[/quote]Ok! What happened was:
I was on holiday last week and a young girl who posts on here was taken into the office for posting "negative thoughts about Royal Mail" They threatened to sack her!.
I just hope and pray they try it with me
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LMAO!!!!!!!
I think Zorro is spoiling for a fight.
Go on Boy!!!!!
I was on holiday last week and a young girl who posts on here was taken into the office for posting "negative thoughts about Royal Mail" They threatened to sack her!.
I just hope and pray they try it with me
LMAO!!!!!!!
I think Zorro is spoiling for a fight.
Go on Boy!!!!!
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zaphod
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Re: I tried to get my H&S Rep to help.
Pity that didn't happen here. I would have fought her case for her. The way the incident was handled is disgusting. Injuries or not, that goes into the accident book, straightaway.andy2007 wrote:We had an accident a few weeks ago, where a trailer door fell, and hit the top cage of a 2 stack as one of my collegues was driving onto it on a Scud. The top cage was nocked off, and ended up impaled on the Cage Guard. If she hadn't ducked as quickly as she did, it would have hit her on the head. As it was, she got away with bruising, as the Guard absorbed most of the impact.
Because she didn't require any treatment. The manager insisted that it should go in the Near Miss Book, which I thought was completely wrong (I saw the accident happen), and informed him that it should have gone in the Accident Book (when did they put it on computer? no-one told us!!!!!). When he told me that he couldn't as there were no injuries, I asked my H&S Rep to put him right. But he told me that there was nothing he could do about it.
I've been on holiday for the last 2 weeks, and have done a bit of research. It turns out that they were both wrong! It's too late to put the incident above in the Accident Book, Computer Records, or whatever. But believe me. If there's another accident that they try to avoid recording properly I WILL GET ON TO HSE PERSONALLY!!!!! You have my word on that!
As for posting negative things about Royal Mail? Puh! The truth hurts, and we leave, thankfully in a country where there still is some semblance of freedom of speech - hence my signature.
BTW, hello Zorro, whoever you are.
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Zorro
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I have nothing whatsoever to hide brynau. I stand up and be counted. I have no interest in management only to prove how useless they are!the brynau wrote: you sound like a DOM to me - got something to hide zorro ??
smokescreens always move.
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drewsie wrote:LMAO!!!!!!!
I think Zorro is spoiling for a fight.
Go on Boy!!!!!
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zaphod wrote:
BTW, hello Zorro, whoever you are..
See me later!
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zaphod
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