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Re: election material

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6p we got :nana
I won
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Re: election material

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SpacePhoenix wrote: The electoral commission or whatever they're called must have a central database of eligible voters, what ward they're in, polling station for that ward, etc. Why don't they post them all out centrally either 1c, 2C or if they must DSA, then payments could be centrally calculated and standardised, no manual counting of them and they'd all get walk sequenced
The main problem would be that the election material is mostly unaddressed and produced by local candidates/party and paying for 1c 2c or DSA rates would be far higher than the d2d rates they currently get plus the payment to the postman, usually only flimsy leaflets that wouldnt stand a chance in a walk sequence machine, also no need to manually count them if you are delivering them to the whole walk
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krussel wrote:
terry2972 wrote:I didn't mean bin the material but te'll management that I didn't want to do it or am I obliged to do it
Its up to you of course but if its unaddressed leaflets you can spread them over 7 days. Say you have 600 drops and take just 100 a day at the close you earn a extra £18 per contract. You could get 6 contracts which is £108 for no more work than D2D which pays a max of £21 supplement. Plus any poll cards you may deliver.

Its not bad money for light leaflets.

err £21 for d2d how do you figure that?
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zx135 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote: The electoral commission or whatever they're called must have a central database of eligible voters, what ward they're in, polling station for that ward, etc. Why don't they post them all out centrally either 1c, 2C or if they must DSA, then payments could be centrally calculated and standardised, no manual counting of them and they'd all get walk sequenced
The main problem would be that the election material is mostly unaddressed and produced by local candidates/party and paying for 1c 2c or DSA rates would be far higher than the d2d rates they currently get plus the payment to the postman, usually only flimsy leaflets that wouldnt stand a chance in a walk sequence machine, also no need to manually count them if you are delivering them to the whole walk
They could for the poll cards at least.
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Re: election material

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hans solo wrote:election material completely voluntery you do not need to do them
they cannot force you to go over your time
are you saying that we DONT have to deliver them,,,,its up to us wether we do them or not?? i beg to differ.
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daveyeff wrote:
hans solo wrote:election material completely voluntery you do not need to do them
they cannot force you to go over your time
are you saying that we DONT have to deliver them,,,,its up to us wether we do them or not?? i beg to differ.
That's how it works in our office. If you don't wanna do them you don't have to. Plenty of people willing to do extra.
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Re: election material

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When do we get paid for what we have delivered?
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Re: election material

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maximus12 wrote:When do we get paid for what we have delivered?
Week after delivery, same as OT.
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
zx135 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote: The electoral commission or whatever they're called must have a central database of eligible voters, what ward they're in, polling station for that ward, etc. Why don't they post them all out centrally either 1c, 2C or if they must DSA, then payments could be centrally calculated and standardised, no manual counting of them and they'd all get walk sequenced
The main problem would be that the election material is mostly unaddressed and produced by local candidates/party and paying for 1c 2c or DSA rates would be far higher than the d2d rates they currently get plus the payment to the postman, usually only flimsy leaflets that wouldnt stand a chance in a walk sequence machine, also no need to manually count them if you are delivering them to the whole walk
They could for the poll cards at least.
They were meant to - it didn't work out it all came as crash sorting.

Also with Poll Cards unless the sequence machines can count specific mail contracts you would still need to count them as most house had 2,3,4 and residential homes 30 and upwards
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Re: election material

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cweg wrote:
daveyeff wrote:
hans solo wrote:election material completely voluntery you do not need to do them
they cannot force you to go over your time
are you saying that we DONT have to deliver them,,,,its up to us wether we do them or not?? i beg to differ.
That's how it works in our office. If you don't wanna do them you don't have to. Plenty of people willing to do extra.
thats not what they are telling us...even the unaddressed ones are classed as live mail. same as d2ds are. what they ARE telling us is that we have a week to do them, even the addressed ones. its up to you if you want to do them all in one day, but you have to do them. someone has paid for them to be delivered. if that was the case, then what if everyone in the whole office decided NOT to do them. i think the wires have been crossed somewhere down the line.
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Re: election material

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cweg wrote:
maximus12 wrote:When do we get paid for what we have delivered?
Week after delivery, same as OT.
I didn't get paid this week for last weeks :thumbdown

I will get that sorted.
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zx135 wrote:
krussel wrote:
terry2972 wrote:I didn't mean bin the material but te'll management that I didn't want to do it or am I obliged to do it
Its up to you of course but if its unaddressed leaflets you can spread them over 7 days. Say you have 600 drops and take just 100 a day at the close you earn a extra £18 per contract. You could get 6 contracts which is £108 for no more work than D2D which pays a max of £21 supplement. Plus any poll cards you may deliver.

Its not bad money for light leaflets.

err £21 for d2d how do you figure that?

Well ok its not really but at the risk of not starting that debate off once again I was trying to put it in prospective as we used to get paid 1.67p per item.
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Re: election material

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krussel wrote:
eian687 wrote:
AnotherLimey wrote:This is were i get pissed off at RM/CWU, how can people doing the same job be paid different rates? some get 3p while others can get 6p, so one person can earn double for doing the same thing? i thought the CWU/RM supported fairness for all? i got paid 4.2 per polling card for the record, Madness.... :d'oh!
Well said......................we should all get the same rate come CWU earn you money sort it :nana

You are the CWU. Get the download information from this site and approach your rep and ask for 6p. Then you have to back up the rep. Its a drawn out process but we achieved it and get 6p a drop now.
Had alookand cant find download, give us a clue please ?
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We've got UKIP to deliver ...4.5p each
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mad leveller wrote: Had alookand cant find download, give us a clue please ?
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