Advice Help and information please.

[clashcityrocker]

They may or may not disappear.
The more overtime you have in the system the fewer jobs (or shorter hour contracts) you have.
Some units have opted for hybrid duties (delivery/collection) to protect jobs whereas some have kept SA because there was little or no appetite for the hybrid duties.
Whether they stay or go should be down to your office vote and not the dictate of your DOM.

[Professor S Gulpfish]

They may or may not disappear.
The more overtime you have in the system the fewer jobs (or shorter hour contracts) you have.
Some units have opted for hybrid duties (delivery/collection) to protect jobs whereas some have kept SA because there was little or no appetite for the hybrid duties.
Whether they stay or go should be down to your office vote and not the dictate of your DOM.

ty kind sir, basically our office manager has said to some of the older guys that their SA's will disappear under delivery methods even though some of these gentleman have had these SA's for some years. One of my friends claims that it states in an agreement that nobody will lose any earnings under delivery methods? The manager says it all goes and nobody can do anything about it. Very stressful day today.

[POSTMAN]

Get on to your branch asap ffs,they would have a sub area rep or at least someone there to help you!

[Professor S Gulpfish]

Get on to your branch asap ffs,they would have a sub area rep or at least someone there to help you!

We are all standing firm on these issues which are arising at our office, I'm just doing my bit for the cause and trying to gather information which will help our office out. As for reps? Unfortunately we are very rural community and miles from London? ty for the advice though

[barrowc]

Page 61 of the Business Transformation 2010 agreement says:

Additional Local Earnings Opportunities

Royal Mail and CWU agree that excessive amounts of overtime working are not conducive to an appropriate work/life balance. This has been recognised by prioritising higher basic pay over recent years.

Within this we also agree the importance of taking into account the aspirations and needs of individual employees for reasonable and regular additional earnings opportunities. As part of local revision activity the opportunity for Scheduled Attendance and overtime will be a key consideration. Such opportunities will need to reflect overall workload and meet service requirements. Local revision proposals should consider how innovative attendance patterns and the overall resourcing mix can be constructed to support different employee needs.

I don't see how that could be construed as "no more SA" - unless you actually wanted this to happen in your revision (e.g. to make part-time duties up to full-time by incorporating the SA hours) but that would be something you voted on rather than have it imposed on you

[POSTMAN]

Get on to your branch asap ffs,they would have a sub area rep or at least someone there to help you!

We are all standing firm on these issues which are arising at our office, I'm just doing my bit for the cause and trying to gather information which will help our office out. As for reps? Unfortunately we are very rural community and miles from London? ty for the advice though

What's London got to do with it,contact your branch...

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[Professor S Gulpfish]

The point of me mentioning London is because there's thousands and thousands of postal workers who work in and around London, we are a tiny little office set in rural England, we see more cows and sheep everyday than people. As the delivery methods is going nationwide I personally would like my office too get the same sort of agreement/deal as our fellow worker in major towns and cities. I wasn't being rude I promise and sorry if you think I was. ty

[Professor S Gulpfish]

Page 61 of the Business Transformation 2010 agreement says:

Additional Local Earnings Opportunities

Royal Mail and CWU agree that excessive amounts of overtime working are not conducive to an appropriate work/life balance. This has been recognised by prioritising higher basic pay over recent years.

Within this we also agree the importance of taking into account the aspirations and needs of individual employees for reasonable and regular additional earnings opportunities. As part of local revision activity the opportunity for Scheduled Attendance and overtime will be a key consideration. Such opportunities will need to reflect overall workload and meet service requirements. Local revision proposals should consider how innovative attendance patterns and the overall resourcing mix can be constructed to support different employee needs.

I don't see how that could be construed as "no more SA" - unless you actually wanted this to happen in your revision (e.g. to make part-time duties up to full-time by incorporating the SA hours) but that would be something you voted on rather than have it imposed on you

ty excellent information, the SA Gang will be overjoyed with your findings

[POSTMAN]

The point of me mentioning London is because there's thousands and thousands of postal workers who work in and around London, we are a tiny little office set in rural England, we see more cows and sheep everyday than people. As the delivery methods is going nationwide I personally would like my office too get the same sort of agreement/deal as our fellow worker in major towns and cities. I wasn't being rude I promise and sorry if you think I was. ty

Ok last time now,if you are union members 'IF' then contact your branch for help,you pay subs for christs sake,we can only do so much on this site.
If not union members,then the guys on this site will help you as best as they can.

[Professor S Gulpfish]

The point of me mentioning London is because there's thousands and thousands of postal workers who work in and around London, we are a tiny little office set in rural England, we see more cows and sheep everyday than people. As the delivery methods is going nationwide I personally would like my office too get the same sort of agreement/deal as our fellow worker in major towns and cities. I wasn't being rude I promise and sorry if you think I was. ty

Ok last time now,if you are union members 'IF' then contact your branch for help,you pay subs for christs sake,we can only do so much on this site.
If not union members,then the guys on this site will help you as best as they can.

ty for you're amazing advice, spoke with the branch today they will be sending a rep to our office 2 weeks on Thursday, he'll be having a view of the current state of play and sharing his knowledge. Just hope the snow doesn't arrive?
Thanks again admin man

[fishtank]

admin man

We call him Susan.

[Professor S Gulpfish]

admin man

We call him Susan.

ty fishtank. Seems Susan must of had a hard day? Came across a little stressy?

[Professor S Gulpfish]

Hi, As promised the rep from our branch turned up today. Unfortunately he slipped as he got out of his car and was driven over 50 miles to the local hospital with a possible broken ankle. Hopefully he will be ok