please use your brains ?

[spoodoo]

Agrees early start s , more time to have a life when you get home . We're starting revision in a few weeks, did many of you cut off in first week of doing it?....

[Lounge Lizard]

mail centres cannot get all the work to the delivery offices that early now...our final dispatch leaves the centre at 6 am , i do wish it could be done earlier because i fully agree with delivery staff being out earlier in this heat...

Yes, all later now with the extra time needed for it go through the DP Sequencing machines, and longer journeys from fewer, more distant Mail Centres, and that's after trucks along motorways being slower than the mail trains were.

[mr ford]

Agrees early start s , more time to have a life when you get home . We're starting revision in a few weeks, did many of you cut off in first week of doing it?....

early starts less time to stay up at night . going bed early on early starts falling asleep at 8pm

[spoodoo]

Reg cutting off,,if I say to my partner that's it I'm no working past my time,,does he have to take you back to office ,then you've gotta sit through you're 40 minute break at office?

[dvbuk55]

Reg cutting off,,if I say to my partner that's it I'm no working past my time,,does he have to take you back to office ,then you've gotta sit through you're 40 minute break at office?

You shouldn't be taking your whole break at the end of the day anyway.

[Stammerking]

Prefer the 7am starts to the 5am starts as I do not feel the need to have a kip in the afternoon and do not worry about having a beer the night before work, as for working in the Sun MTFU we are giving the right gear to do the job in hot conditions whinge whinge whinge

[Bag of d2d]

While there is a profusion of threads about the hot weather and starting earlier and the possible effects of the heat and who should be facing prosecution, people seem to have overlooked one very simple fact.

You are in charge of your Health and Safety.

Consequently if you don't feel it is reasonable to go out or stay out on delivery you don't have to.
Nobody can force you to go out on delivery.
Nobody can force you to do double shifts.

You are grown-ups.
You are responsible for your own actions.
How difficult is it to say that you are struggling in the heat, that you don't feel you can complete a delivery?

So please use your cojones.

Clash I myself have used this argument but there are easily bullied people out there that are highly susceptible to their tactics. You also have to consider people on short term contracts, or in their first six months, it wouldn't be wise for these people to rock the Royal Mail boat. Include offices with a poor union presence or people struggling financially or just simply worried about losing their jobs or overtime and you have more than 80% of the workforce not wanting to upset their Line Manager.

Can you imagine them telling a manager that they don't fancy doing the whole delivery because its too hot?

Of course it's easy to say but at least point out the possible ramifications. And there are nearly always ramifications for putting a Royal Mail manager in their place, or worse, making them finish off your round. This is not Kansas, you will piss them off.

So that might be, perhaps, why people go out when they don't feel up to it against the obvious advice. Not everyone has the tenacity to take Royal Mail on.

[hampshireman]

While there is a profusion of threads about the hot weather and starting earlier and the possible effects of the heat and who should be facing prosecution, people seem to have overlooked one very simple fact.

You are in charge of your Health and Safety.

Consequently if you don't feel it is reasonable to go out or stay out on delivery you don't have to.
Nobody can force you to go out on delivery.
Nobody can force you to do double shifts.

You are grown-ups.
You are responsible for your own actions.
How difficult is it to say that you are struggling in the heat, that you don't feel you can complete a delivery?

So please use your cojones.

Very well put. I do hope that people take notice