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Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
crammypostie1 wrote:I got nowt and i have averaged 3 early mornings for the last 12 months without fail, dunno how it gets paid out
Because is "contracted" overtime - not "as requested" or "authorised".
define contracted. If a postman is contracted to say 20 hours a week, and he does 2 earlies every week for say 12 months... then what is that, whats the difference with that then what every1 else is getting
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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I might get you... listen to what i understand... if say a chap was on 20 hours contract... but the company needed you to start an hour early everyday to fit into the work plan... that would get SA payment ?
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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crammypostie1 wrote:I might get you... listen to what i understand... if say a chap was on 20 hours contract... but the company needed you to start an hour early everyday to fit into the work plan... that would get SA payment ?
No unless they signed a contract for that hour as Scheduled Attendance
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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crammypostie1 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
crammypostie1 wrote:I got nowt and i have averaged 3 early mornings for the last 12 months without fail, dunno how it gets paid out
Because is "contracted" overtime - not "as requested" or "authorised".
define contracted.
Signing a CONTRACT that says you will perform a SCHEDULED ATTENDANCE duty above and beyond your normal working hours (and any normal overtime).

There are also different rules for SA, like you have to do it once you sign the contract, no saying Thanks but no thanks boss I have to be somewhere else, and a 28 day notice period as well.
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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Can anyone tell me how this payment is calculated sure I've been diddled.
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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The purpose of the SA holiday payment is to ensure that employees who regularly work SA receive some earnings support to cover their main paid annual holidays.

To save undue administration; payments will be automatically made as non-pensionable lump sums to those employees who were in service in a relevant grade at the start of the Annual Holiday Year and are still in service in a relevant grade when payment is made.

Payment 1 2 weeks worth in May

Payment 2 2 weeks worth in August

Payment will be based on the weekly average SA (weekday and Sunday) worked during the previous Annual Holiday Year but paid at the current SA cash rate when actually paid. This ensures that the payments reflect the weekly variations in SA worked, including the additional time prior to Christmas.

Subject to: -

a) The total for each week being no more than the National Limit averaged across any rotational cycle.

b) The average for employees with less than the maximum length of service for the reference period prior to the commencement of the current Annual Holiday Year being calculated on the actual number of weeks of service up to the end of the prior Annual Holiday Year.

c) Employees joining an eligible grade during the current Annual Holiday Year not being eligible for a payment till the following Annual Holiday Year.

This is NOT a savings scheme with money earned in one year payable in the following one. Prior year data is used to estimate the SA that will be worked during the current year. Employees leaving service or a relevant grade prior to the end of the Current Annual Holiday Year (the 12 months April - March) will have their entitlement to the SA payment scaled back to reflect their reduced service within the Current Annual Holiday Year.

For employees due to retire, this should be calculated when the final year’s payment is made. For employees leaving service, any overpayment will be automatically recovered from the outstanding pay upon leaving.

In line with normal business practice, no payment will be due to employees leaving service prior to the SA Holiday Payment being made other than by way of retirement due to age, ill health or redundancy. In these limited circumstances a pro rata payment will be made according to the length of service in the current annual holiday year.

To qualify for payment the SA must have been performed in accordance with the National Rules which includes the individual employee completing a formal agreement detailing the SA to be worked and will be capped at the National Maximum.

Employees on temporary promotion / substitution into a non eligible grade when payment is made will only receive a proportionate payment for the period they were in an eligible grade if and when they permanently revert to an eligible grade within the Current Annual Holiday Year.

Employees within RM Letters Network terms will continue to operate their existing SA Holiday scheme i.e. they will be exempt from the terms of this directive, and will continue to submit authorized HR16’s for their first 4 weeks of holiday.

All policy queries should initially be flagged to the HR Services Contact Centre (5456 7100 / 0845 6060603), or emailed to HRSC Enquiries Pay. The Contact Centre will flag more complex queries through the escalation process. Technical payroll enquiries should be directed to HR Support.
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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I got £5.............no idea why, must have done over Christmas :nervous :Very Happy
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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DGP1 wrote:I got £5.............no idea why, must have done over Christmas :nervous :Very Happy


Xmas pressure hours are normally SA hours and this is counted towards the the payment. Hence why those that don't do the one day a week SA still tend to get a payment albeit a small one!

I got £20 yipee! :nana
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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£ 1 .27
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12p
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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62quid 20quid less than last year yet same amount sa done think of a number and they think your happy rip off c...ts
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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£187.74 :nana
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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crammypostie1 wrote:I got nowt and i have averaged 3 early mornings for the last 12 months without fail, dunno how it gets paid out
Strange, and it was S/A yeah?
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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resperin wrote:
crammypostie1 wrote:I got nowt and i have averaged 3 early mornings for the last 12 months without fail, dunno how it gets paid out
Strange, and it was S/A yeah?
I never signed anything but get asked to come in early 3 times a week
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Re: Scheduled Attend Lump Sum

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:The purpose of the SA holiday payment is to ensure that employees who regularly work SA receive some earnings support to cover their main paid annual holidays.

To save undue administration; payments will be automatically made as non-pensionable lump sums to those employees who were in service in a relevant grade at the start of the Annual Holiday Year and are still in service in a relevant grade when payment is made.

Payment 1 2 weeks worth in May

Payment 2 2 weeks worth in August
what if you have 6 weeks leave ?