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Trolleys on delivery

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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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Trolleys should be used if they are meant to be used on a walk. If you get an injury on duty, chances are one of the 1st questions asked will be "was you using a trolley?" now if you wasn't using one when you're meant to be using one, the DOM or manager will just throw you to the wolves
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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SpacePhoenix wrote:Trolleys should be used if they are meant to be used on a walk. If you get an injury on duty, chances are one of the 1st questions asked will be "was you using a trolley?" now if you wasn't using one when you're meant to be using one, the DOM or manager will just throw you to the wolves

Would the DOM then ask "was you pulling or pushing it?"

I know it should be pulled, but it keeps clipping my ankles so I generally push it on the flat.
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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motch wrote:

Would the DOM then ask "was you pulling or pushing it?"

I know it should be pulled, but it keeps clipping my ankles so I generally push it on the flat.
I had the same problem, but i'm sure its on this site somewhere that you can push them.
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

Correct

Pull or push
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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Delivery - Light Weight Trolleys (LWT)

Branches will be aware that the Delivery Lightweight Trolley (LWT) was designed to be pulled when in use. However following various pieces of feedback from Delivery OPGs that they would also like the option to push the trolley in certain circumstances, we with the assistance of Mick Gledhill from the CWU Walk Design Group have been reviewing the safety risk assessments with Royal Mail Safety and Ergonomic Managers.

This work is now complete and whilst the preferred method of use is to pull the LWT it has now been jointly evaluated that it is safe and permissible to push the LWT in certain circumstances.




From the revised SSOW.

Pulling and Pushing the LWT

The LWT is designed to be pulled and is the recommended method in most cases.
Pushing the LWT is however permissible and specifically must be the adopted working method when going downhill and travelling through tight spaces.
The LWT must not however be pushed if:

o going up a kerb
o travelling over uneven terrain
o going round blind corners
o going up hill
o entering a road between park cars or similar obstructions
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

Post by chrisj »

mandelsons_toenail wrote:Correct

Pull or push
I dont what the official guideline is but from experience: I prefer to pull and it is safer (H&S).

You risk have your wrist twisted if you push and trolley comes to a sudden stop because of obstacles... You might even get stabbed (OTT) by the handle - the roads are not even.

Loss of control on the pushing might even lead to cars being scratched. Its up to the individual, I guess
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

Post by motch »

chrisj wrote:
mandelsons_toenail wrote:Correct

Pull or push
I dont what the official guideline is but from experience: I prefer to pull and it is safer (H&S).

You risk have your wrist twisted if you push and trolley comes to a sudden stop because of obstacles... You might even get stabbed (OTT) by the handle - the roads are not even.

Loss of control on the pushing might even lead to cars being scratched. Its up to the individual, I guess
I'm guessing you're under 6 foot regarding the pulling. All the tall guys I know seem to clip their heels whilst it's being pulled.
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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fishtank wrote:Delivery - Light Weight Trolleys (LWT)


From the revised SSOW.

Pulling and Pushing the LWT

The LWT is designed to be pulled and is the recommended method in most cases.
Pushing the LWT is however permissible and specifically must be the adopted working method when going downhill and travelling through tight spaces.
The LWT must not however be pushed if:

o going up a kerb
o travelling over uneven terrain
o going round blind corners
o going up hill
o entering a road between park cars or similar obstructions
going around blind corners ? hmmm think i'd rather push it if on the road. Rather the trolley was hit before me. Driver would see the trolley a few feet before me.
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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I've used the Golf Trolley and the HCT and and I'd prefer either over carrying a heavy bag on the shoulder. Never did carry a bag when we had bikes....ironically I only ever did carry a bag AFTER they'd brought in the Revisions to take weight off the shoulder.

This was only due to Covering Revised Duties where the Duty Holder wasn't using the correct methods and basically left his Cover with a bag of shite delivery that couldn't be done Correctly. How many times have you climbed into a van an asked,"Where's the LWT then"? Only to be told, "Oh we don't bother using them...we just use bags"! :arrrghhh

Yes I know you then kick up a fuss go back into the DO try and find a "Serviceable" trolley, put it in the van then get told...none of the bags have the fittings on and the loops aren't practicable for a trolley but haven't been designed for an 8kg pouch. FFS you can only have so much patience working with Dickheads! :d'oh!
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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Why dont royal mail just get bags without shoulder straps and just get bags with the black hoops for attaching to lwt.NO MORE BAGS ON SHOULDER
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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shepherdess wrote:Why dont royal mail just get bags without shoulder straps and just get bags with the black hoops for attaching to lwt.NO MORE BAGS ON SHOULDER
I agree Shepherdess.....however I'm sure you'd soon have some of colleagues taking bags home and fixing their own shoulder straps on them! :arrrghhh

It's within the power of management to solve many of these problems BUT they basically don't give a shite. Until there's a major Health & Safety scare or some one has a serious accident they'll just let things roll....anything for an easy life/bonus! :mad
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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shepherdess wrote:Why dont royal mail just get bags without shoulder straps and just get bags with the black hoops for attaching to lwt.NO MORE BAGS ON SHOULDER
How will the DOM's be able to do any cut offs (minus packets) on their way home though??
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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Aint used one yet...haven't had the Official training video...
Rep advised not to use one unless the correct training has been received.
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Re: Trolleys on delivery

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stedarlo wrote:Does anyone know what the situation is using trolleys on delivery.

We have been told that you can use an 8 kilo bag, no problem, but today the management decided to tell us the rules have changed and trolleys must be used.
Strange thing is, Rurals don't have to use them, not needed for lapsing and those using the big trolleys can use an 8 kilo bag when they tie there trolley up.
Are the management just shitting us ????

Sorry, don't mean to be rude, have you done a rural duty?
Only some urbanised rural areas might be able to use them, but most rurals have longish/long distances between calls.
I deliver to a wide spread out area over 45 miles!
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