Advice for a colleague, possible dismissal.

[keithposty]

so in a sense, all those especially rural staff who come in early, dont take breaks, and continue to moan at you saying they are looking after their customers had better watch their backs

how ironic is that

but you still cant tell some people

[Sickofit]

Yes true Keith, amount of customers what tell me there other postman signs for stuff or leaves it there, just for their crimbo tips, I would rather have a job thanks. But I do get worry about cutting off when nobody else does.

[noggin1969]

You can usually spot the rural driver who does the job correctly , because they'll be in the reserve van as thier van is in having new door locks / steering lock / battery / ecu / starter motor fitted

[General Mannerheim]

So did the southport postie win a appeal or not?
It just so anoys me that if u did totally everything by the book you could probley only get about half of the delivery done, so what would happen if managers say I'm slow and taking the piss, would they have to prove it,would they come out with me and test me?

I was told off the wonderful tribunal panelist that these cwu muppets send up now to `help` people go through to an employment tribunal for this region that he had got two of these southport posties an amazing,wonderful settlement out of court.. .that another had dropped their claim as he got another job and one other had got his job back.

[postiesteve1]

It may sound nasty but we have to be just as nasty and unforgiving as those who are charged with reducing staff. I feel for the postal inspectors, supervisors, managers, directors because they really do not know what it is like to be in the public eye day in and day out. We wear a uniform that identifies us and from the day we leave our homes til we get back we are visible. They however can sit in their offices and make rules that may have good intentions but can be as hard headed as those who are placed in a position to enforce said rules. I was once accused of leaving my van running with the door open by my immediate supervisor and she had a witness in her vehicle when she said she caught me. Long story short it was not my van but in reality the van of a sibling of another supervisor and when this was pointed out everything was dropped ie: I was targeted but they were not going to go after the other due to his relationship. I learned then and there to write everything down and keep every piece of paper, when challenged to 'TAKE NO PRISONERS AND BURN THE FIELDS WHEN WE LEAVE'.

We understand that supervisors are charged and pressed to do things that they may not want to do. Example of this is they were tasked with questioning all overtime in our section. As a relief carrier I was exposed to various styles of supervision, where one would dress up one side of you and down the other, an other would merely come over and ask. Having a supervisor who would say your right the volumes yesterday were quite high and thanks for keeping it done so low made me want to work harder and even eat some overtime but the one who called you lazy and instructed you to break the rules in order to make himself feel important, well lets just say that every rule was followed and every minute of overtime was claimed.

[TeeferTiger]

If RM want you to keep all mail in the back of the van and switch the engine off and lock up, then do it. It's their time they're wasting, not yours. If the DOM isn't happy that you're taking longer, invite them to come out with you.

[POSTMAN]

Other than a working bundle (not SD items) which can be carried in the front passenger footwell. This bundle must be taken with the driver each time he/she has to leave the vehicle.

We've been here before with this,personally I ignore it.

So what did we work out,was that quote before they said it was a no no for mail in the front or after.

[Sickofit]

Other than a working bundle (not SD items) which can be carried in the front passenger footwell. This bundle must be taken with the driver each time he/she has to leave the vehicle.

We've been here before with this,personally I ignore it.

So what did we work out,was that quote before they said it was a no no for mail in the front or after.

What do u ignore postman?

[POSTMAN]

Other than a working bundle (not SD items) which can be carried in the front passenger footwell. This bundle must be taken with the driver each time he/she has to leave the vehicle.

We've been here before with this,personally I ignore it.

So what did we work out,was that quote before they said it was a no no for mail in the front or after.

What do u ignore postman?

The bundle in the footwell thing,nothing in the front for me.

[OnAFlyer]

Yes true Keith, amount of customers what tell me there other postman signs for stuff or leaves it there, just for their crimbo tips, I would rather have a job thanks. But I do get worry about cutting off when nobody else does.

Oh dear, you wouldn't leave a parcel with a neighbour or leave it in a safe place because you'd 'rather have a job', but you carry loads of stuff in the front of the van and leave the engine running when delivering!

I would consider myself a common sense postie rather than a totally by the book jobsworth, but I would never leave anything in the front of the van and never leave it running or unlocked, even when I park outside someones front door. Those things are a LOT more serious than leaving a parcel for someone (I haven't done that for ages now either)

[fishtank]

Other than a working bundle (not SD items) which can be carried in the front passenger footwell. This bundle must be taken with the driver each time he/she has to leave the vehicle.

We've been here before with this,personally I ignore it.

So what did we work out,was that quote before they said it was a no no for mail in the front or after.

It was OK...then it was no way...now it's OK again by the latest RM Delivery Equipment Security Procedure dated Sep 2010...which was due to be reviewed Sep 2011 so maybe it's no way again or maybe you can carry the whole duty tied to the front of the van if you want as long as it makes the duty achievable in RM's eyes.