A D2D whisper

[jessicarabbit]

I understand the theory but it is fighting a losing battle to explain to posties that it is just workload now. Delivery Postman who prep and deliver 6 D2D in a week certainly feel they are working harder for their 40 hours than the PHG who sits reading the paper and sipping coffee with the DOM for his 40 hours.....and he may have a point.

[RTP]

Solve this one....

The D2D that are to be delivered next week that have the big wooden cross. It's all for a good cause and all that, but going by the book there will be the odd customer with tiny letter boxes on the odd round. So if the crosses won't go through, then going by the book what is a postman supposed to do. Write the cross off as 'unable to deliver' or put in a 'notice left'?

[Indy]

The point I was trying to make was that the extra pay is a 'supplement' which could be up for discussion as opposed to basic pay which isn't/wouldn't be.

Might we go back to the old system where you get paid per item but still have them classed as live mail??

[fishtank]

Might we go back to the old system where you get paid per item but still have them classed as live mail??

No..because they won't pay you twice for them,in duty time and a unit payment.
That is why the delivery supplement is not a D2D supplement.

[dvbuk55]

Personally I would give up the delivery supplement because I don't deliver anything and I am sure there are many others who would do the same - but because of the small numbers involved it would be an empty gesture.

[Indy]

Might we go back to the old system where you get paid per item but still have them classed as live mail??

No..because they won't pay you twice for them,in duty time and a unit payment.
That is why the delivery supplement is not a D2D supplement.

Interesting.... obviously RM has the countrywide picture of D2D loads per postie but from what I can see they've shot themselves in the foot with this deal. IF we were getting 5/6 every week then they'd be laughing all the way to the bank BUT in the last month I've had 3! When I first started I was getting 2 or 3 EVERY week. If others are being denied 20 minutes extended coz RM are broke I and others can't see this D2D deal continuing. I've been paid £120 to deliver 3 D2D FFS!

[R5Rich]

Are you not meant to put them inside the biggest item?

[NewPostieUK]

Solve this one....

The D2D that are to be delivered next week that have the big wooden cross. It's all for a good cause and all that, but going by the book there will be the odd customer with tiny letter boxes on the odd round. So if the crosses won't go through, then going by the book what is a postman supposed to do. Write the cross off as 'unable to deliver' or put in a 'notice left'?

As much as I hate door to doors especially the big flimsy and stupid-shaped ones, I'd love it, just love it, if I had one that didn't fit. I'd P735 it without a second thought.

That would teach the idiots to have tiny letterboxes and expect to get mail.

[Indy]

Are you not meant to put them inside the biggest item?

Apparently NOT but a bind eye is turned in my office as long as there are none left on Saturday.

[Wiltshireboy]

No, but I do have another couple of questions on D2D.

1.How many D2D is supposed to trigger them coming together as one in plastic sleeves? From memory I thought it was 6 lots.
2. Has anyone had 6 lots and if so, did they come in plastic sleeves.


Ta.

I Had 6 this week. Last few months varies between one and 6 a week.Plastic envelopes?...I wish!

[chelseachris]

Not sure about any of this but we have had 6 or more than one occasion on the South Coast in the last few months. Next week the D2D from hell. The Red Cross I think and each envelope literally contains a C5 size wooden cross in it. Gonna be fun.......

I've got those too but only 1 sector out of 3 have them

We have them as well thank god i am off next week

[box_shana]

I cannot believe that RM make much of a profit from these D2D, I mean how can they undercut the d2d leaflet distributors who pay minimum wage and have I imagine a lot lower overheads then RM do. Anyway as I have already said, I hate these d2d, waste of time, for posties, customer, and environment, and all for what must be a poor return for RM.

If RM want to make/save more money then maybe their directors should take a pay cut ! yeah I know I must be dreaming

Anyway this guy had enough of them as well !!

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amazing that he actually went to trial for burning d2d FFS whats the world coming too ? I wonder if this would have happened to a leaflet distributer worker who burned or dumped their leaflets ? I doubt it, though i may be wrong.

[weirdo]

Fishtank,

We all got the early shift allowence.

PHG's and drivers do not have to prep and deliverer d2ds, well not as many as us PROPER posties.

Quid pro quo.

[gerardy]

I know the d2d's were built into measured workload after the BT agreement, and yes i know that they had time built in for the extra indoor work and the extra outdoor work.
What i do not understand though is how and why they are not added into the offices traffic figures weekly when they are classified as live mail.

[POSTMAN]

We DON'T want them in a sleeves! Also...

In 2009/10 there was 2.8 bilion items a year , quiet in the summer , busy in the autumn and with no deliveries over christmas.

In 2010/2011 , the cap released to 4 items in June but with no prior planning , cap release to 5 in August , Christmas Open but most campaigns plans already made in the market. Cap release to 6 in January 2011. Traffic increased to 3.2 billion items.

Plan for 2011 /2012 improved notice christmas campaigns hoping for an increase of 3.7 billion items.

Door to door is still bucking the marketing trend. Royal Mail have won some growth in the retail sectonr and with supermarkets.

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