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[eastie]

No , only 2 pairs use trolleys and there the slowest in the office due to using them.
The loops have too much mail and packets to put in a trolley anyway and you would nead an overload bag halfway round the route on some loops.
Also with flats you have no security when you leave the trolley and with steps on footpaths what do you do, the planners didnt know they were there and never consulted me at all about the loops ?

[POSTMAN]

No , only 2 pairs use trolleys and there the slowest in the office due to using them.
The loops have too much mail and packets to put in a trolley anyway and you would nead an overload bag halfway round the route on some loops.
Also with flats you have no security when you leave the trolley and with steps on footpaths what do you do, the planners didnt know they were there and never consulted me at all about the loops ?

Am i right,you've had a P&L revision but only 2 use the trolleys?
Wtf is going on at your place?
Rep involved?

[OnAFlyer]

Had our revision for3 weeks now, had to cut off each time to make sure I'm back at the office before it shuts at 15:30.

My earliest finish any day of the week is 14:45, earliest start is 07:00.

Due to P & L out prep times have almost doubled, quite a few are taking around 4 hrs to prep, most on van share have 1500 delivery points now, whereas before the revision most ft deliveries were around 500, so we are in fact trying to do 3 mens work in the same time, mail is coming back every day, some walks bring back 5-8 pouches daily.

Same here , our walk sorted doesnt get to us till 8am so cant get out the door till 10.00-10.30, round is 1200 calls and takes 4 hours 45 mins.
cut off 3 to 4 bags everyday and the DOM's dont like it.
They try to tell you that we aren't organised enough and we just say to the DOM's walk test us then or you be my partner on park and loop for the day and then they walk off in a huff.
problem is as well I find on my round that has a lot of packets ( up to 60 or more a day) is that at the time of day we start there is nobody in and you waste time on the pda and then writing out the dockets afterwards.When they are in and notice its the postman and not the debt collector you have to use the pda again
Also the drivers loop is 5 minutes shorter than the walkers loop but the driver has to deliver up to 10 large packets in the loop in 5 minutes
Loops aren't loops in some cases as you have to deadwalk 400 yards to get back to the van on some estates that have paths and no roads.
As for using trolleys , forget it , use bags as a trolley adds about 40-60 minutes per walk and the bloody thing falls over when your bag is full

See these are the problems, and also the reason why a rigid structure like P&L won't work. An average pair of walks in our office is 1400 calls. Yet they're done within 3.30 the vast majority of days. I'm the driver and it's a bad day if I have 7-8 large packet/tracked drops. The few walks that do get a lot of packets (students + commercial) are struggling to finish and cutting off, despite them having less delivery points. We look like getting another driving duty put in to cover this though.

In a heavy office with lots of packets it ain't ever going to work, unless someone else takes all the packets/tracked or the walks are cut down to allow for them. Something most managers and DOM's seem to be unable to work out.