Change over to Monthly pay

[fishtank]

I love the moaning about moaning posts.
Where is NT anyway?

[skull]

I want a transfer to your office red bag man.

And as for everyone else on here,stop talking s**t and come with me.

His office is probably the one where they trialed P&L and it worked so I'm in .

[arty_morty]

This is the first job I've had since working as a spot welder in a birdcage factory (honest) where I've been paid weekly. To be honest I'm always skint either way.

[krussel]

Well i moan like a bitch and ive got a f**cking good reason too as the job ive been doing for 20 years, the one i ve taken pride in with a senseof duty to my customers has had the arse ripped out of it.

maybe something to do with correctly filling in docket forms ...

We lost these green OT forms about 4 years ago so now you have to tell a Manager hoping he will remember before checking with the balance of staff duty to make sure you get paid the hours you work.

I think most of the the new uniform is top ...

Not a patch on the 90's uniform which lasted forever. The new stuff is crap in -16 c which we had this year.

PPPS - I've no probs with my lino - I ask (rather than moan) when necessary - everything works OK

Lack of experience i am afraid. You will know what I mean when you get some years in.

The sooner large amounts of people start to "get real" ... the more chance there is of making this thing work

Ever thought of becoming one of these new Managers assistants

I'd be interested to know how representative this 'ere forum is of RM in toto

Sorry lost me here ? Were not Toto a band in the mid eighties ?

I WAS a union Shop Steward as well

No comment

but if people are happier in their life moaning and moaning (and probably taking it all home to ruin their home life as well) let them get on with it ... and help to take the whole thing down ...

A fair comment but lacks true RM experience. Be active in a few strikes, lose money, and then think again.


In some respects I agree with you that we should be more positive to making the company work against the growing threat of increased competition. However stand back and look what’s happening and ACTUALLY LISTEN to the old moaning sweats who have seen a lot more of RM and know what it can do.

If you do you will see that you are being systematically worked harder and harder to boast the overall profit so that you can be sold (or made redundant) when the business is privatised.

Also take some time to read a few threads on here about people being forced to go long term sick because they can no longer cope with the increase in workload and the ever extending deliveries. Its tragic really and all of this “lets pull together chaps “ attitude isn’t really going to change it or help them is it.

Have a nice weekend buddy

[sidewinder]

Ah ha!! The couriers voice has landed here.

[comeracing]

whens the next round of talks feb 2018.

[POSTMAN]

I love the moaning about moaning posts.
Where is NT anyway?

He's filling out one of those green docket (rem them?) things with thingy.

[axeman]

''If paradise was half as nice as heaven that you take me too ''..... get real bag man everything isn't the rosy picture you seem to think .....but of course you live in an ideal paralel universe

[BELIAL]

Here we go again ... moan moan moan ...

PS - I think most of the the new uniform is top ...

PPS - My overtime comes thru correct every week - maybe something to do with correctly filling in docket forms ...

PPPS - Maybe P&L will work for us non-PCOD peeps - QED mind ...

PPPS - I've no probs with my lino - I ask (rather than moan) when necessary - everything works OK - respect either way - and discretion (YES discretion !) applied on both sides ... I'm happy - he's happy.

PPPPS - I'm not Dingo in disguise ....

The sooner large amounts of people start to "get real" ... the more chance there is of making this thing work - 12 months ago I was "outside RM" and I've seen how sh*t it is out there - I got screwed over big style (pension frozen, statutory Government redundancy payment for 25 years service) - this to me is "another chance" (even with a 50% cut in wages) - but reading what I read (and it's not only the "old lags" but some of the newer ones as well) ... we're gonna struggle ... although I'd be interested to know how representative this 'ere forum is of RM in toto ... I'd like to think "not very" ... to me everything starts from the bottom and permeates up (in a previous life I WAS a union Shop Steward as well - which probably helped towards my redundancy) - it CAN be done ... but if people are happier in their life moaning and moaning (and probably taking it all home to ruin their home life as well) let them get on with it ... and help to take the whole thing down ...

Now .. sod it all until Monday ... but maybe a quick peep for a possible "non-moan" thread ...



(P/T - 24 hours a week - always available for o/t - will work day off when it suits me ... like I said "how representative" ?)

Welcome Moya. Shop steward

[BELIAL]

Iron that shirt you slattern

[krussel]

I love the moaning about moaning posts.
Where is NT anyway?

He's filling out one of those green docket (rem them?) things with thingy.

NT oh yeah "night tonic" thats a blast from the past

[banjo1t]

Ruddy el, that got you lot goin!!

[andy2007]

I love the moaning about moaning posts.
Where is NT anyway?

He's filling out one of those green docket (rem them?) things with thingy.

It's been a long time since I've seen one of the green Dockets. We just have photocopies of them, printed on the reverse of other printouts (saving paper, saving the environment). But we do still have them. If we didn't, and there wasn't an alternative (besides word of mouth). Then there's no way I'd do ANY overtime EVER! If there's no "paper trail", then you've no way of proving you've done the overtime. So any mistakes could potentially lead to no payment at all.

[krussel]

I love the moaning about moaning posts.
Where is NT anyway?

He's filling out one of those green docket (rem them?) things with thingy.

It's been a long time since I've seen one of the green Dockets. We just have photocopies of them, printed on the reverse of other printouts (saving paper, saving the environment). But we do still have them. If we didn't, and there wasn't an alternative (besides word of mouth). Then there's no way I'd do ANY overtime EVER! If there's no "paper trail", then you've no way of proving you've done the overtime. So any mistakes could potentially lead to no payment at all.

This is the problem we have at my office. Say its a heavy day and you go 30 mins over. You get back and the managers have gone home so in the morning you see the dom and say you went 30 mins over yesterday. He makes a note and informs the balance duty staff who then add it to the pressure OT sheet which you sign, job done.

The problem is when you say go over on a friday and you tell the dom sat morning who then forgets to pass it on and it misses that weeks overtime. If the doms on a rest week or holiday the following week no one knows about it so you have to chase it up.

I find it best to just go in and tell the dom i will be going 30 mins over before i go out and then check when i get back.

Mind you as of next week our revision kicks in and we will NEVER have to go over, the dom promises

[axeman]

I love the moaning about moaning posts.
Where is NT anyway?

He's filling out one of those green docket (rem them?) things with thingy.

It's been a long time since I've seen one of the green Dockets. We just have photocopies of them, printed on the reverse of other printouts (saving paper, saving the environment). But we do still have them. If we didn't, and there wasn't an alternative (besides word of mouth). Then there's no way I'd do ANY overtime EVER! If there's no "paper trail", then you've no way of proving you've done the overtime. So any mistakes could potentially lead to no payment at all.

Mind you as of next week our revision kicks in and we will NEVER have to go over, the dom promises

quick remedy is to cut off ...now thats a good idea then theres no problem obtaining what's rightfully yours (overtime) think the mesage would soon hit home....me i'd just do my hours and no more