RM FIRST REVIEW TOMORROW

[krussel]

We are already hurting the customer on a daily basis by the lateness of absorbed deliveries. Last week I was delivering to a parade of shops at 1.30pm. Last year that mail would have been run up with a driver and delivered by 9.30am. Five years ago it would have been delivered by 7.30am and waiting on the mat when they opened the shop.
If a business complains about the lateness of its delivery they are simply offered a chance to take out a timed delivery slot at a cost of over £8 a day.

With complete privatization around the corner I can only see it getting worse with the withdrawal of the universal service obligation which will mean not only will they be getting mail later but at an even greater cost.

[peejay14]

I don't think that it would be fair of me to accuse you of breaking my job by striking, so I don't think it is fair for you to accuse me of breaking your strike by working. I respect your decision to strike, and I know that it is not aimed at hurting me (although it does, because it puts at risk everything). Please respect my decision to work, because I do not do it to harm your strike (although it does, because it goes its own small way to defeating the purpose of your strike). Sorry about that, but I guess that's life; we don't all get things our own way. Without agreement, there is no progress.

I think that going on strike is a regrettable last resort, like detonating a bomb. This occurs when all other less damaging options have been exhausted (have they?) and when the attempt to resolve the situation using common sense has FAILED.

I'm on no-one's side in this war except my own, because I agree with neither side. If the union wins through industrial action, I will take none of the credit. If the company wins by breaking the strike, I will take none of the credit, though perhaps plenty of stick. If both lose, and I lose MY JOB (worst case scenario) as a consequence, then I will take none of the blame. If both win, by reaching an agreement, then hip hip hooray .

[axeman]

and if every one was like 'peejay' as some friends of mine, mr Ben.Dover and Letsby Avinyou said recently were ''shafted'' thank goodness were not all like this

[rhino49]

Peejay - the principle behind industrial action is not that it forces the agreement you want but that it forces AN agreement that ends the status quo.
The stronger the unity of either side, the sooner an agreement, however near or far from your objectives, is reached and peace reigns. Sitting on the fence or indeed not supporting the side you hope will benefit to some degree is denying your responsibilities, not only to your colleagues but ultimately to yourself.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I don't think that it would be fair of me to accuse you of breaking my job by striking, so I don't think it is fair for you to accuse me of breaking your strike by working.

Strikebreaker definition A strikebreaker (sometimes derogatorily called a scab) is a person who works despite an ongoing strike. Strikebreakers are usually individuals who are not employed by the company prior to the trade union dispute, but rather hired prior to or during the strike to keep production or services going. "Strikebreakers" may also refer to workers (union members or not) who cross picket lines to work.

I think "Strikebreaker" is a lot more polite and preferred way to describe working through a strike, than others that are seem by some as B&H.

[antcpfc]

I will take none of the credit. If the company wins by breaking the strike, I will take none of the credit, though perhaps plenty of stick. If both lose, and I lose MY JOB (worst case scenario) as a consequence, then I will take none of the blame. If both win, by reaching an agreement, then hip hip hooray .

And any benefits gained FOR YOU you will not want to take either. Last time we left a load of gift aid forms around the office for the strikebreakers .They were happy with their original money so we thought they may want to donate the extra that WE fought for.Funny none used them.Perhaps your morals are better and you will.

[Ernie Shoe]

Peejay.
No offence BUT:
Some of you comments have made me want to vommit.

No offence intended, honest.

[fishtank]

Peejay.
No offence BUT:
Some of you comments have made me want to vommit.

No offence intended, honest.

I don't mind long posts,i don't even mind comments that make me want to vomit.
I'm just bored with the same old "I'm torn in two" post hijack.

No offence intended,again.

[k979aaa]

For some cleaning their immediate superiors asses with their tongue's is beneficial in climbing the ladder which is perched upon those shoulders of their fellow workers one and all can just about bare the manager but those that creep up that ladder to faun should all be frowned upon!.

[peejay14]

At the forthcoming talks, I will be supporting... ACAS. But positions are so entrenched, that I fear things are beyond repair. To try and describe any position other than that of the determined striker on here, is to walk into a hornet's nest. Over the years, have relations between staff and management deteriorated so badly? If so, then something needs to give. Maybe the recent spat was just the tip of the iceberg, and beneath the surface lies the real danger.

[flyinmachine]

At the forthcoming talks, I will be supporting... ACAS. But positions are so entrenched, that I fear things are beyond repair. To try and describe any position other than that of the determined striker on here, is to walk into a hornet's nest. Over the years, have relations between staff and management deteriorated so badly? If so, then something needs to give. Maybe the recent spat was just the tip of the iceberg, and beneath the surface lies the real danger.

Honestly mate who cares you need to chill out ! Everyone's entitled to there own opinion but its as if your looking for some kind of conflict. Every thread i go onto about all different topics ! it seems you've already been there posting the same thing chill fella !!

[peejay14]

I didn't realise that posties were such a militant bunch. In my office it looked like we were just getting on with it, and it still does, yet to a man/woman we walked out (yes, including me, I thought I had no choice until I received RM's 'Back to Work' plan). I don't think many of us hope for much out of the coming talks, or new what to expect out of the strike, there was just an overall feeling of discontent that seemed to excuse the Union's orders. I believe that our office now feels that it could do without the hassle of another strike, and hopes that somehow the Union can improve things for us without the need for further walkouts.

[k979aaa]

I didn't realise that posties were such a militant bunch. In my office it looked like we were just getting on with it, and it still does, yet to a man/woman we walked out (yes, including me, I thought I had no choice until I received RM's 'Back to Work' plan). I don't think many of us hope for much out of the coming talks, or new what to expect out of the strike, there was just an overall feeling of discontent that seemed to excuse the Union's orders. I believe that our office now feels that it could do without the hassle of another strike, and hopes that somehow the Union can improve things for us without the need for further walkouts.

Why blame the union for all the bad in your workplace for all what you have said is no doing of the union but of the management it shows the lack of union involvement in the workplace is why workers feel under valued and neglected and disenfranchised!.

[dvbuk55]

I aint in charge, Communication, Without Upsetting them.

Yeah, as I was saying, I'm looking forward to being back on the picket line, preferably before Santa starts out on his deliveries.

Well to cut a long story short I don't know how I managed to miss this - just lucky I guess

[peejay14]

all what you have said is no doing of the union but of the management

Sounds like you have been brain-washed, or have other k9s left you with just a thumb ?

Apparently the CWU agrees with the company that modernisation is necessary. Can anyone summarise what changes the union and the company both agree are necessary ? What common ground do they have ?

C'mon ACAS !!