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Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
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infidel
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
me thinks the rm duo have had there bolloks filled with a govt boot ,this is causing serious cash decline plus to quick to
lose buisness,adAMSs up to the baw rit in bother /could be like serengetti the weak die and the hyenas move in[us].
HYENAS RULE YA BAM.
lose buisness,adAMSs up to the baw rit in bother /could be like serengetti the weak die and the hyenas move in[us].
HYENAS RULE YA BAM.
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viking1488
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
well 2 is better than none how many went to work or was it 100% all outUp Hill Down Hill wrote:The picket line consisted of 2 people on Friday!!bluebite79 wrote:Fancy a weekend away??
You should be on the gate supporting your fellow members not Pi**ing off for a weekend away![]()
. GET ON THE GATE!!!
What chance have you got?
30% of us on strike
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mucker
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
indeed i voted against it in 2007,not that did any fecking good i did try to tell the numptys in our office £400 for a life time of shiteviking1488 wrote:well only if your fool enough to take it like most did last time was £400 worth all the s**t yer gettin now :cfobathboy wrote:i suspect it will be called of,then we will proabaly be shafted just like 2007 when the big£400 carrot was dangling![]()
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Up Hill Down Hill
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
70% went in!viking1488 wrote:well 2 is better than none how many went to work or was it 100% all outUp Hill Down Hill wrote:The picket line consisted of 2 people on Friday!!bluebite79 wrote:Fancy a weekend away??
You should be on the gate supporting your fellow members not Pi**ing off for a weekend away![]()
. GET ON THE GATE!!!
What chance have you got?
30% of us on strike
The downside of no union rep!
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DirtyHarry
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
Well said.viking1488 wrote: well only if your fool enough to take it like most did last time was £400 worth all the s**t yer gettin now :cfo
This time, every postal worker is going to have to be on the ball, forget paltry inducements, make sure you read the small print. Most of our colleagues didn't last time, and we've had the worst two years ever, what with enforced flexibility, enforced overtime, and ever increasing workloads.
£400, most colleagues sold themselves very cheaply indeed.
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heathrow86
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
I think the strike will be called off and yes I do believe we will be shafted as before. How come Royal Mail has agreed to talks at the TUC but not ACAS? Even though the threat of a strike is still over them & also how could the union get close to an agreement last Tuesday after only 2 days of talks, but could'nt get near one in about 5 months of talks? Something fishy there. If they had then myself and my colleauges in network would not of lost 9 days or about £900 in wages.
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viking1488
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
whats no union rep got to do with anything thats a very poor show from a d/o hope there all very pleased well the rest of us were out on a gate words fail me if i was to tell you what i think they would bin me off this site they need to get a grip like now 70% of a d/0 it makes me sick :cfoUp Hill Down Hill wrote:70% went in!viking1488 wrote:well 2 is better than none how many went to work or was it 100% all outUp Hill Down Hill wrote:The picket line consisted of 2 people on Friday!!bluebite79 wrote:Fancy a weekend away??
You should be on the gate supporting your fellow members not Pi**ing off for a weekend away![]()
. GET ON THE GATE!!!
What chance have you got?
30% of us on strike
The downside of no union rep!
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lainey
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
do you think they will be dangling the carrot at mr ward ? 
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viking1488
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
no i think the union have told them where to stick it :cfolainey wrote:do you think they will be dangling the carrot at mr ward ?
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viking1488
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
Crunch post strike talks 'useful'
The first nationwide postal strikes for two years took place last week
Talks between Royal Mail and union leaders aimed at ending the row over pay, conditions and modernisation have ended for the day without agreement.
The sides will reconvene on Tuesday but if no deal is reached, postal workers are planning three more walkouts on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
The TUC's Brendan Barber, who is brokering the negotiations, said Monday's talks had been "useful".
Neither Royal Mail or the Communication Workers Union (CWU) would comment.
"We're going to adjourn to allow some work to be done on some of the issues involved," said Mr Barber, the TUC's general secretary.
Earlier the CWU said it was "looking forward" to the talks, and Royal Mail chief Adam Crozier had said before the talks that he hoped "common sense" would prevail.
Meanwhile the volume of delayed mail is expected to fall to five million items by the end of the day, Royal Mail said.
Royal Mail had previously said that the backlog was 30 million items.
The CWU had claimed that the backlog was in excess of 100 million items on Saturday morning.
'Positive change'
STORY SO FAR...
Postal workers, especially in London, have been holding intermittent one-day strikes for months in a row over the way Royal Mail is to be modernised
Earlier this month, postal workers voted three to one in favour of nationwide industrial action (though Royal Mail said 60% of the total number of postal workers in the UK did not vote to strike)
The CWU set dates for the first nationwide postal strikes in two years
Last-gasp talks failed to reach an agreement, and two 24-hour strikes were held on Thursday and Friday of last week
Fresh talks between the two sides are now taking place. At the moment, further UK-wide strikes are planned for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday
Origins of the Royal Mail strike
Sorrow and anger on picket line
Send us your comments
Postal workers staged two days of strikes on Thursday and Friday last week.
The latest talks are taking place at the Trades Union Congress (TUC), which helped to resolve a dispute between the two sides in 2007.
The CWU earlier said it was a "huge, positive change" having Royal Mail managing director Mark Higson at the talks, as he had not been present at negotiations up until now.
Mr Higson had not commented when he arrived at the meeting.
However, the CWU's deputy general secretary Dave Ward had said there were some things the government needed to sort out, including the massive pension deficit at Royal Mail, believed to be about £10bn.
"We are very disappointed about some of the comments that Lord Mandelson is making about this dispute. He's not telling the truth about what this dispute is about," Mr Ward told journalists on his way into Congress House - where further talks will also take place.
If this week's strikes go ahead, they are due to involve:
Royal Mail says it is reducing the backlog of delayed mail items
• Thursday - 43,700 staff in mail centres, delivery units in mail centres, network logistic drivers and garage staff walking out from 0400 GMT
• Friday - 400 workers at three sites in Plymouth, Stockport and Stoke, who assist mail centres by reading and entering mail addresses
• Saturday - 77,000 delivery and collection staff across the UK.
Focusing on customers
While both sides agree that job cuts are necessary, they disagree over their extent, and the future pay and working conditions of the workers that remain.
ANALYSIS
Martin Shankleman, employment correspondent, BBC News
Both sides are dishing out propaganda. There is a battle on and they are both putting out partial information.
Royal Mail says they were very close to an agreement last week. In fact, at times it says there was an agreement. But the union comes back and says there is no agreement - there was a form of words they never signed up to.
The TUC is often a good way of getting one side off the hook if they want to climb down: it is known as something of a fudge factory. Now judging by what was said on Sunday, it does not seem that either side wants to climb down or is in the mood for compromise.
Amazingly, we had Royal Mail chief executive Adam Crozier telling the union to "shut up" and Billy Hayes of the union telling the company that they were talking nonsense. So it doesn't seem like there is a compromise in the air, but maybe there is something going on behind the scenes.
On Sunday, Mr Crozier told the BBC's Andrew Marr show that he hoped an outline deal would see the strikes cancelled.
Mr Crozier denied accusations he was taking a back seat in the dispute and said he was not involved in the direct talks with the union because his focus was instead on talking to affected customers.
He also denied that he was taking any direction from the government.
The CWU said it would not agree to any compulsory redundancies, adding, "we want change with agreement, with job security at the heart of it".make what you want from that from the bbc :cfo
The first nationwide postal strikes for two years took place last week
Talks between Royal Mail and union leaders aimed at ending the row over pay, conditions and modernisation have ended for the day without agreement.
The sides will reconvene on Tuesday but if no deal is reached, postal workers are planning three more walkouts on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
The TUC's Brendan Barber, who is brokering the negotiations, said Monday's talks had been "useful".
Neither Royal Mail or the Communication Workers Union (CWU) would comment.
"We're going to adjourn to allow some work to be done on some of the issues involved," said Mr Barber, the TUC's general secretary.
Earlier the CWU said it was "looking forward" to the talks, and Royal Mail chief Adam Crozier had said before the talks that he hoped "common sense" would prevail.
Meanwhile the volume of delayed mail is expected to fall to five million items by the end of the day, Royal Mail said.
Royal Mail had previously said that the backlog was 30 million items.
The CWU had claimed that the backlog was in excess of 100 million items on Saturday morning.
'Positive change'
STORY SO FAR...
Postal workers, especially in London, have been holding intermittent one-day strikes for months in a row over the way Royal Mail is to be modernised
Earlier this month, postal workers voted three to one in favour of nationwide industrial action (though Royal Mail said 60% of the total number of postal workers in the UK did not vote to strike)
The CWU set dates for the first nationwide postal strikes in two years
Last-gasp talks failed to reach an agreement, and two 24-hour strikes were held on Thursday and Friday of last week
Fresh talks between the two sides are now taking place. At the moment, further UK-wide strikes are planned for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday
Origins of the Royal Mail strike
Sorrow and anger on picket line
Send us your comments
Postal workers staged two days of strikes on Thursday and Friday last week.
The latest talks are taking place at the Trades Union Congress (TUC), which helped to resolve a dispute between the two sides in 2007.
The CWU earlier said it was a "huge, positive change" having Royal Mail managing director Mark Higson at the talks, as he had not been present at negotiations up until now.
Mr Higson had not commented when he arrived at the meeting.
However, the CWU's deputy general secretary Dave Ward had said there were some things the government needed to sort out, including the massive pension deficit at Royal Mail, believed to be about £10bn.
"We are very disappointed about some of the comments that Lord Mandelson is making about this dispute. He's not telling the truth about what this dispute is about," Mr Ward told journalists on his way into Congress House - where further talks will also take place.
If this week's strikes go ahead, they are due to involve:
Royal Mail says it is reducing the backlog of delayed mail items
• Thursday - 43,700 staff in mail centres, delivery units in mail centres, network logistic drivers and garage staff walking out from 0400 GMT
• Friday - 400 workers at three sites in Plymouth, Stockport and Stoke, who assist mail centres by reading and entering mail addresses
• Saturday - 77,000 delivery and collection staff across the UK.
Focusing on customers
While both sides agree that job cuts are necessary, they disagree over their extent, and the future pay and working conditions of the workers that remain.
ANALYSIS
Martin Shankleman, employment correspondent, BBC News
Both sides are dishing out propaganda. There is a battle on and they are both putting out partial information.
Royal Mail says they were very close to an agreement last week. In fact, at times it says there was an agreement. But the union comes back and says there is no agreement - there was a form of words they never signed up to.
The TUC is often a good way of getting one side off the hook if they want to climb down: it is known as something of a fudge factory. Now judging by what was said on Sunday, it does not seem that either side wants to climb down or is in the mood for compromise.
Amazingly, we had Royal Mail chief executive Adam Crozier telling the union to "shut up" and Billy Hayes of the union telling the company that they were talking nonsense. So it doesn't seem like there is a compromise in the air, but maybe there is something going on behind the scenes.
On Sunday, Mr Crozier told the BBC's Andrew Marr show that he hoped an outline deal would see the strikes cancelled.
Mr Crozier denied accusations he was taking a back seat in the dispute and said he was not involved in the direct talks with the union because his focus was instead on talking to affected customers.
He also denied that he was taking any direction from the government.
The CWU said it would not agree to any compulsory redundancies, adding, "we want change with agreement, with job security at the heart of it".make what you want from that from the bbc :cfo
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realitybites
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
How many would write a check for £400now to be rid off all this. The big 2 could share it among themselves and retire. Saying that, it would probably only pay for a week off for them.
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viking1488
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
well like i said you should have not took the £400 to begin with you could all of said no and maybe just maybe we could have sorted this all out in 2007 but you all saw £400 wow loads of money make me laugh they got that back within weeks of giving it out :cfo and there still taking robbing bastards :cforealitybites wrote:How many would write a check for £400now to be rid off all this. The big 2 could share it among themselves and retire. Saying that, it would probably only pay for a week off for them.
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Body Beyond Repair
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
Hope we are, The local disputes that are currently ongoing will only be resolved through negotiation and with issues to many to mention and widespread, national agreements will be and should be the only basis for pulling strike action if its the case of a quick fix then its certainly not to the benefit of the members who are attacked daily.If there is a purpose to these talks then what we have started should not be withdrawn till us the CWU are protected not in the short term but long term.
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lainey
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
personally i think there is something well dodgy going on 
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Bluebird
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Re: Chances of striking going ahead Saturday?
So do Ilainey wrote:personally i think there is something well dodgy going on