It would be absolutely incredible if after all this the union come out saying 6 into 8 is better than 3 into 4. I’ll put nothing past these con artists running the show though so let’s see what happens this month. Hey maybe Chris Webb could update us via video as we haven’t seen him in a while…….
Lots of rumours around that they are close....but it seems like 6 into 8 is all RM will accept if they go with the heavy and light version of reform. Seems very similar to 3 into 4 to me but I'm sure it will be spun as a win.
Its not similar
Its exactly the same
ergo nonsense
heavy and light model is removing 1 in 8 duties to be split between the other 7
I can see a compromise being removing 1 in 6 ( ODM is 1 in 4 )
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Lots of rumours around that they are close....but it seems like 6 into 8 is all RM will accept if they go with the heavy and light version of reform. Seems very similar to 3 into 4 to me but I'm sure it will be spun as a win.
If you do some very basic maths, like divide each number by 2, (the lowest common denominator) then 6 into 8 looks very much like 3 into 4.
Sshh I don't think we're supposed to realise that 6 in 8 is the same as 3 in 4
I've got an idea, 12 in 16. The heaviest and f***ing even heavier model. I'll write to my MP later.
f**k it....24 in 32 or for the bigger offices 48 in 64
11 offices covering 15. A merry fleet of Royal Mail double decker buses flying around, parking up and 55 postmen all run out and scatter in all directions. We could even give it a similar name to RMs preferred model. The ODDM, optimised double decker model.
I've got an idea, 12 in 16. The heaviest and f***ing even heavier model. I'll write to my MP later.
f**k it....24 in 32 or for the bigger offices 48 in 64
11 offices covering 15. A merry fleet of Royal Mail double decker buses flying around, parking up and 55 postmen all run out and scatter in all directions. We could even give it a similar name to RMs preferred model. The ODDM, optimised double decker model.
Expect an extension to the talks.
After all, I can’t imagine there can be any movement until after the commons select committee pantomime
That would be ridiculous as these talks are already an extension on the extension of the previous talks. But this is the CWU so you will probably be correct. More biscuits for Dave and Martin while we all sit in limbo.
Since the talks started Hobnobs have gone from £1 a packet to £2.40 (the plain ones), and they no longer use real chocolate on the ones Dave prefers
Expect an extension to the talks.
After all, I can’t imagine there can be any movement until after the commons select committee pantomime
That would be ridiculous as these talks are already an extension on the extension of the previous talks. But this is the CWU so you will probably be correct. More biscuits for Dave and Martin while we all sit in limbo.
Since the talks started Hobnobs have gone from £1 a packet to £2.40 (the plain ones), and they no longer use real chocolate on the ones Dave prefers
I remember back when the talks started....wagon wheels were massive
Expect an extension to the talks.
After all, I can’t imagine there can be any movement until after the commons select committee pantomime
That would be ridiculous as these talks are already an extension on the extension of the previous talks. But this is the CWU so you will probably be correct. More biscuits for Dave and Martin while we all sit in limbo.
Since the talks started Hobnobs have gone from £1 a packet to £2.40 (the plain ones), and they no longer use real chocolate on the ones Dave prefers
I remember back when the talks started....wagon wheels were massive
Today I can confirm that talks between the CWU and Royal Mail have broken down. Despite months of engagement through the Dispute Resolution Process (DRP), the company has once again shown that it has no real intention of reaching a fair and meaningful agreement for postal workers.
Let’s be absolutely clear about what has happened here. Our members have engaged in good faith. We have put forward sensible proposals. We have shown flexibility and a willingness to find solutions that protect the service, the workforce, and the long-term future of Royal Mail.
But the company has chosen a different path.
Instead of listening to the people who actually deliver the service day in, day out, Royal Mail’s leadership continues to pursue a narrow agenda driven by short-term profits and shareholder returns. The same shareholders who were handed dividends during the COVID crisis while postal workers were out in all conditions keeping the country connected.
Our members remember that.
They remember working through a national emergency, keeping businesses trading, delivering medicines and essentials, and supporting communities when the country needed them most. Yet now they are told the price of “modernisation” is cuts, attacks on terms and conditions, and a race to the bottom.
The Dispute Resolution Process has now come to an end.
The company has walked away from the opportunity to reach a negotiated settlement. That leaves us with very little choice.
The union’s Postal Executive will now meet urgently to consider the next steps, including preparations for a national ballot for industrial action. Let me be clear: this is not something we take lightly. But if Royal Mail believes it can impose change on the workforce without agreement, they are badly mistaken.
Our members built this service. They deserve respect, security and a genuine voice in its future.
If the company continues to prioritise profit over people, then postal workers will be ready to stand together and defend their livelihoods and the public service they are proud to provide.
The CWU will not stand by while the people who keep this country connected are treated as a disposable cost.
The fight for the future of Royal Mail has just entered a new phase.
Lots of rumours around that they are close....but it seems like 6 into 8 is all RM will accept if they go with the heavy and light version of reform. Seems very similar to 3 into 4 to me but I'm sure it will be spun as a win.
The way the cake is cut up isn't the problem as there is only one cake. The problem is what the CWU has already agreed - the delivery profile of the traffic. Which ever way they agree to cut the cake won't make any difference. Once the traffic starts building up it can't be dealt with. Until the traffic reduces to the point where it makes the profits the CWU want, the way they have agreed to process the traffic does not work.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
