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[chickenwittle]

So they gonna just walk all over CWU and just implement through executive action?

They are entering a months mediation to hopefully find a resolution , nobody is being walked over .

Calm down dear.

[Sean06]

Think it could well lead to industrial action if not resolved.just waiting on all the usual cwu bashers saying no chance . if i rem last vote on here was a no yet it ended up a yes.

[chickenwittle]

Think it could well lead to industrial action if not resolved.just waiting on all the usual cwu bashers saying no chance . if i rem last vote on here was a no yet it ended up a yes.

I don’t even think the CWU would think they have a remote chance of selling industrial action to its members.

[Perseus]

Did the CWU ever publish, in detail, what their counter ODM was?

[roadrunner bill]

I don’t know how USO reform will save any more money. Offices are being run on a skeleton staff already, and there’s no magic way of getting more done for less. The levels of delusion from up-high are comical, there’s just no way of fixing what they’ve broken.

The company has gone insane...

[thefox]

Think it could well lead to industrial action if not resolved.just waiting on all the usual cwu bashers saying no chance . if i rem last vote on here was a no yet it ended up a yes.

I don’t even think the CWU would think they have a remote chance of selling industrial action to its members.

I think if a yes vote for strike action did manage to limp across the line there would be a lot of members who would cross the picket line,I for one would im not losing anymore money for that lot.

[Valentina@1]

If its industrial action,then so be it,looks as though we gonna have to make a stand at some point regardless of CWU previous f**k ups

[twoloops]

Edit....never mind just received it myself by email I've posted it below

So that's what it was, had a quick flick & deleted it, far too long to read, life's to short.

[yellowbelly]

Did the CWU ever publish, in detail, what their counter ODM was?

In detail: 'Longs and shorts as a van pairing' - that was pretty much it. Two walks, one day you take everything on one walk and just priority on the other, next day swap it round.

[Perseus]

Did the CWU ever publish, in detail, what their counter ODM was?

In detail: 'Longs and shorts as a van pairing' - that was pretty much it. Two walks, one day you take everything on one walk and just priority on the other, next day swap it round.

ah, that's it. I remember now. I forgot it quickly because of how embarrassing it was. Remember, that this wasn't being proposed to 'fix' duties going forward that were too big currently. It was based on 2 normal duties that were currently able to complete every day. Some offices have a problem with staffing numbers (ours does most of the time). Some have issues with duties being undeliverable in the hours given to do it. Some have both issues.
If duties in our office, when fully staffed, only did packets etc on one side and everything on the other, they'd be finished 90 minutes early each day.

[SMS1969]

Did the CWU ever publish, in detail, what their counter ODM was?

In detail: 'Longs and shorts as a van pairing' - that was pretty much it. Two walks, one day you take everything on one walk and just priority on the other, next day swap it round.

And lapsing from a lapsed walk too.

[yellowbelly]

Did the CWU ever publish, in detail, what their counter ODM was?

In detail: 'Longs and shorts as a van pairing' - that was pretty much it. Two walks, one day you take everything on one walk and just priority on the other, next day swap it round.

And lapsing from a lapsed walk too.

Aaah right, I did wonder where the proposed saving was coming from otherwise what would be the point of two people still doing two rounds.

[SMS1969]

Did the CWU ever publish, in detail, what their counter ODM was?

In detail: 'Longs and shorts as a van pairing' - that was pretty much it. Two walks, one day you take everything on one walk and just priority on the other, next day swap it round.

And lapsing from a lapsed walk too.

Aaah right, I did wonder where the proposed saving was coming from otherwise what would be the point of two people still doing two rounds.

Exactly, but unfortunately it looks like the failed 3 doing 4 model will probably get pushed through by executive action.Work to time then go home is what I’ll do if they do, w@nkers.

[Acca Dacca]

Did the CWU ever publish, in detail, what their counter ODM was?

In detail: 'Longs and shorts as a van pairing' - that was pretty much it. Two walks, one day you take everything on one walk and just priority on the other, next day swap it round.

It was called ''heavy and light''

Longs and shorts is a different thing - thats to do with longer and shorter attendance i.e shorter day Tuesday longer day Thursday which has been a RM thing in many offices for years

[chickenwittle]

I think the talk of industrial action is a bit premature, if no agreement can be found then the worst Royal Mail will do is bring in odm by executive action.Although not ideal , none of us will be losing money and the job has been a mess for 3 years now so no big change there.I certainly wouldn’t be voting to strike under those circumstances, especially given the outcome of the last strike.