Evri have a fifth of the market, yet RM management seem to want use Evri as some sort standard to which we should all aspire. Hopefully , I`ll be gone before this happens, unless this is what the new USO is going to look like?
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WalkerX
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Re: Evri documentary
Dear Lord. That depot was old Nissen huts. They don`t even have a toilet! I thought our depot had a poor surface, but that one didn`t have ANY tarmac.
Evri have a fifth of the market, yet RM management seem to want use Evri as some sort standard to which we should all aspire. Hopefully , I`ll be gone before this happens, unless this is what the new USO is going to look like?
Evri have a fifth of the market, yet RM management seem to want use Evri as some sort standard to which we should all aspire. Hopefully , I`ll be gone before this happens, unless this is what the new USO is going to look like?
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TopperGas
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Re: Evri documentary
The problem for RM is that customers just see the bottom line they couldn't careless that their parcel is being sorted in a nissen hut.WalkerX wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 20:37Dear Lord. That depot was old Nissen huts. They don`t even have a toilet! I thought our depot had a poor surface, but that one didn`t have ANY tarmac.
Evri have a fifth of the market, yet RM management seem to want use Evri as some sort standard to which we should all aspire. Hopefully , I`ll be gone before this happens, unless this is what the new USO is going to look like?![]()
The My Performance app basically encouraging us all to doorstep shows where RM are heading.
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WalkerX
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Re: Evri documentary
Exactly this.TopperGas wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 20:49The problem for RM is that customers just see the bottom line they couldn't careless that their parcel is being sorted in a nissen hut.WalkerX wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 20:37Dear Lord. That depot was old Nissen huts. They don`t even have a toilet! I thought our depot had a poor surface, but that one didn`t have ANY tarmac.
Evri have a fifth of the market, yet RM management seem to want use Evri as some sort standard to which we should all aspire. Hopefully , I`ll be gone before this happens, unless this is what the new USO is going to look like?![]()
The My Performance app basically encouraging us all to doorstep shows where RM are heading.
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chickenwittle
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Re: Evri documentary
Be careful you’ll get a telling off from admin for bullying, even though you are 100% correct.scotchy1962 wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 17:01Nothing to do with the CWU and everything to do with the law and minimum wage, wtf have the union to do with that.tramssirhc wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 16:37The postal industry, like all industries, is exploitative. It's not about what the employers do, it's about how workers react to the way the industries operates and specifically what an organisation like the CWU are going to do about it. If there should be any documentary if should be an undercover exposure of the CWU.
Forget your anti CWU s**t for a minute and concentrate on how a big delivery company can flaunt the law and rip off it's employees and customers with no comeback.
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tramssirhc
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Re: Evri documentary
Competition is a figment of the industries imagination. Workers are told they are in a competition so they will accept worse pay and conditions. This is where trade unions come in. They can organise and change the distribution of the profits created by workers. Two tier contracts are the fault of the CWU, no one else.
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scotchy1962
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Re: Evri documentary
Yet again a blatant lie, "competition is a figment of industries imagination", jesus man you really are on deluded.tramssirhc wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 11:55Competition is a figment of the industries imagination. Workers are told they are in a competition so they will accept worse pay and conditions. This is where trade unions come in. They can organise and change the distribution of the profits created by workers. Two tier contracts are the fault of the CWU, no one else.
If there was no competition all business would thrive,"two tiers contracts" have been around forever and can't be laid at the CWU or any unions door.
Things like this is why people consider you lot to be lacking, hurry up and start your union, i see a very small membership.
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tramssirhc
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Re: Evri documentary
If there was competition the industry would look very different. You'll be telling us there competition in the railway industry, the water industry, the food industry next.scotchy1962 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 16:12Yet again a blatant lie, "competition is a figment of industries imagination", jesus man you really are on deluded.tramssirhc wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 11:55Competition is a figment of the industries imagination. Workers are told they are in a competition so they will accept worse pay and conditions. This is where trade unions come in. They can organise and change the distribution of the profits created by workers. Two tier contracts are the fault of the CWU, no one else.
If there was no competition all business would thrive,"two tiers contracts" have been around forever and can't be laid at the CWU or any unions door.
Things like this is why people consider you lot to be lacking, hurry up and start your union, i see a very small membership.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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scotchy1962
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Re: Evri documentary
Do you walk into walls, of course there is competition within industry, you are trying to find some who have been privatised and can't really have competition as they are singular entities within, water, rail don't have competition at the moment but there's nothing to stop the government letting other energy/transport firms from piggybacking in like they do with all other public utilities.tramssirhc wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 16:25If there was competition the industry would look very different. You'll be telling us there competition in the railway industry, the water industry, the food industry next.scotchy1962 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 16:12Yet again a blatant lie, "competition is a figment of industries imagination", jesus man you really are on deluded.tramssirhc wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 11:55Competition is a figment of the industries imagination. Workers are told they are in a competition so they will accept worse pay and conditions. This is where trade unions come in. They can organise and change the distribution of the profits created by workers. Two tier contracts are the fault of the CWU, no one else.
If there was no competition all business would thrive,"two tiers contracts" have been around forever and can't be laid at the CWU or any unions door.
Things like this is why people consider you lot to be lacking, hurry up and start your union, i see a very small membership.
Your argument is moot and i noticed you only addressed what you could answer, What about the rest Einstein.
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Hyrrokkin
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Re: Evri documentary
Some do some don't just like RM and any other delivery company.tramssirhc wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 19:17The workers do their best and some are even better than workers who should know better.
It is Evri themselves as a company that are total s**t
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Hyrrokkin
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Re: Evri documentary
Everything he posts is a love cwu...but don't worry cwu will have us postal workers on minimum wage soonSean06 wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 19:29Everything he posts is a anti cwu..but don't worry pwrfc will have us postal workers on £20 an hour soon.scotchy1962 wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 17:01Nothing to do with the CWU and everything to do with the law and minimum wage, wtf have the union to do with that.tramssirhc wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 16:37The postal industry, like all industries, is exploitative. It's not about what the employers do, it's about how workers react to the way the industries operates and specifically what an organisation like the CWU are going to do about it. If there should be any documentary if should be an undercover exposure of the CWU.
Forget your anti CWU s**t for a minute and concentrate on how a big delivery company can flaunt the law and rip off it's employees and customers with no comeback.![]()
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scotchy1962
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Re: Evri documentary
No skin in the game and if you look through my posts i think you will find i am as critical as anybody of the union when i was still in it, but i don't like tellin porkies to try to further your cause. Stand up for what you believe and that should be enough, resort to lies and slander you deserve what you get.Hyrrokkin wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 17:27Everything he posts is a love cwu...but don't worry cwu will have us postal workers on minimum wage soonSean06 wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 19:29Everything he posts is a anti cwu..but don't worry pwrfc will have us postal workers on £20 an hour soon.scotchy1962 wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 17:01Nothing to do with the CWU and everything to do with the law and minimum wage, wtf have the union to do with that.tramssirhc wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 16:37The postal industry, like all industries, is exploitative. It's not about what the employers do, it's about how workers react to the way the industries operates and specifically what an organisation like the CWU are going to do about it. If there should be any documentary if should be an undercover exposure of the CWU.
Forget your anti CWU s**t for a minute and concentrate on how a big delivery company can flaunt the law and rip off it's employees and customers with no comeback.![]()
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qwerty2
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Re: Evri documentary
He was on about sean06 i think - not youscotchy1962 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 18:37No skin in the game and if you look through my posts i think you will find i am as critical as anybody of the union when i was still in it, but i don't like tellin porkies to try to further your cause. Stand up for what you believe and that should be enough, resort to lies and slander you deserve what you get.Hyrrokkin wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 17:27Everything he posts is a love cwu...but don't worry cwu will have us postal workers on minimum wage soonSean06 wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 19:29Everything he posts is a anti cwu..but don't worry pwrfc will have us postal workers on £20 an hour soon.scotchy1962 wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 17:01Nothing to do with the CWU and everything to do with the law and minimum wage, wtf have the union to do with that.tramssirhc wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 16:37The postal industry, like all industries, is exploitative. It's not about what the employers do, it's about how workers react to the way the industries operates and specifically what an organisation like the CWU are going to do about it. If there should be any documentary if should be an undercover exposure of the CWU.
Forget your anti CWU s**t for a minute and concentrate on how a big delivery company can flaunt the law and rip off it's employees and customers with no comeback.![]()
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Mr Rush
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Re: Evri documentary
The Communication Workers Union is the descendant of the Union of Postal Workers, by way of the re-merging of the two unions which came from its dissolution: the Union of Communication Workers and the National Communications Union. It is primarily because of the latter that the CWU does not see itself as a postal or courier union - the NCU, carrying over from the UPW engineering brach, was at inception the union for British Telecom.tramssirhc wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 19:15It's everything to do with an organisation like the CWU, who by the way, have no interest in organising workers who are couriers because it's frankly too much like hard work for the lazy corrupt officials.
This history lesson is all to explain why the CWU is trying to organise people working in call centres* rather than those in the same line of work that comprise the clear majority of its members (RMG delivery staff). Essentially the relationship got flipped inside out. Instead of a communications technology branch within a postal union, since 1995 it has been a postal branch within a communications technology union.
*- I don't know how that particular effort is going as it seems all the call centres are shuttered and the former occupants are working from home.
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tramssirhc
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Re: Evri documentary
History shows that the postal section remains the strongest section of the CWU. The parliament of the union is dominated by postal grades with the majority being full time release workers. Letter carriers have always played second fiddle to other grades even as far back as the late 1800's. Porters and sorters had more clout.Mr Rush wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025, 21:29The Communication Workers Union is the descendant of the Union of Postal Workers, by way of the re-merging of the two unions which came from its dissolution: the Union of Communication Workers and the National Communications Union. It is primarily because of the latter that the CWU does not see itself as a postal or courier union - the NCU, carrying over from the UPW engineering brach, was at inception the union for British Telecom.tramssirhc wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 19:15It's everything to do with an organisation like the CWU, who by the way, have no interest in organising workers who are couriers because it's frankly too much like hard work for the lazy corrupt officials.
This history lesson is all to explain why the CWU is trying to organise people working in call centres* rather than those in the same line of work that comprise the clear majority of its members (RMG delivery staff). Essentially the relationship got flipped inside out. Instead of a communications technology branch within a postal union, since 1995 it has been a postal branch within a communications technology union.
*- I don't know how that particular effort is going as it seems all the call centres are shuttered and the former occupants are working from home.
The CWU has made no effort to organise casualised workers particularly in the postal industry. Other unions have also failed even where they have historic recognition agreements such as the RMT. The real 'flipping' of power happened when branches were amalgamated removing power from the workplace. It was argued as a cost saving change which became a concentration of power in fewer hands with little cost saving.
The focus on minority sections within the CWU is a vanity project of a clique at the top of the union. This is portrayed as the means by which to take the CWU into the future. What they mean by future is finding the money to continue to bankroll the likes of Ward. Workers in all the sections will continue to be let down by the CWU.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren