Last Christmas

[TopperGas]

There's lots that talk about leaving all the time but never go. It's not easy when someone has been there a while. There's the doubt of finding something else and of not being able to adapt to a new job. Plus on the old contracts RM pays well for what the job is and the hours although not as good are still decent.

Near minimum wage ? Job pays well wtf

Legacy contracts are nowhere near minimum wage? Plus there's a decent pension contributions on top. For somebody nearing retirement they'd do well to find better pay for an unskilled job.

[Thommo44]

Emptying the boxes today, absolutely rammed, over 2 weeks to Christmas and you know they won’t get there in time

[goldy2007]

There's lots that talk about leaving all the time but never go. It's not easy when someone has been there a while. There's the doubt of finding something else and of not being able to adapt to a new job. Plus on the old contracts RM pays well for what the job is and the hours although not as good are still decent.

Near minimum wage ? Job pays well wtf

Legacy contracts are nowhere near minimum wage? Plus there's a decent pension contributions on top. For somebody nearing retirement they'd do well to find better pay for an unskilled job.

Agreed and most long term legacy won’t be pressured by managers and know how to play the game

Start on time
Break
Finish on t8me

Over time at a negotiated rate with your manager

Who wants to be the RM new starter equivalent somewhere else

[funkflex55]

There's lots that talk about leaving all the time but never go. It's not easy when someone has been there a while. There's the doubt of finding something else and of not being able to adapt to a new job. Plus on the old contracts RM pays well for what the job is and the hours although not as good are still decent.

Near minimum wage ? Job pays well wtf

Legacy contracts are nowhere near minimum wage? Plus there's a decent pension contributions on top. For somebody nearing retirement they'd do well to find better pay for an unskilled job.

Yep. £15.05 an hour with delivery supplement and that's not taking into account the paid breaks. I also did say old contracts.i know the new contracts are close and I definitely wouldn't do it for that pay rate, jobs too tiring for £13.06.

[Chelseablue]

Is £15.06 London rate or ?

[funkflex55]

£15.05 is non London. Don't know how much they get

[ted_e_bear]

Is £15.06 London rate or ?

No it's regular rate, my wageslip for 37hrs shows
Basic £526.35 plus
Delivery supplement
£18.39 +
£12.19
Total
£556.93 ÷ 37 = £15.05 per houy

But it's actually more than that as you only need to do approx 34 hours work taking paid breaks into consideration so effectively about £16.38

Obviously when you do overtime the rate is a fair bit less then even less after the first 10 hours if you do more than that.

[Dorset Plodder]

The thing to do if you are finding it all too much is just, ''WORK TO YOUR TIME''

It's not that hard. Come in and do whatever RM want you to do, be it prepping Households or Double Prepping another Duty. Prep your own Duty and if you're due to go out the door at 10.00 inform the Manager you haven't got enough time left to complete your Delivery, is there any help for you? WHEN he says NO inform him you'll be finishing on time and will bring anything back that's left!

When he kicks off ask him what HE wants you to do, what does HE want you to prioritise? He'll probably trot out ''Make sure you deliver all Tracked and 1st class''! (We've recently had the 1st class bit added to the Mantra) You might get away with leaving some low priority stuff in the frame i.e Bulk Catalogue Mailshot. Generally they want you to take EVERYTHING because they haven't got the balls to stand up to their boss and argue your case.

Then it's up to you. If he wants Tracked, I'll deliver Tracked (AND 1st Class) and pull out everthing else as I'm going around. Put it in a box in walk order because you're going to be throwing it off again when you get back.... Very efficient And don't forget to allow enough time to do that within your Contracted Hours.

WARNING: Be prepared to get some grief from your Manager, and probably a few veiled threats thrown in. But it is down to you to be more Assertive, and not be treated like a drone. We now have the ''Raise a Concern'' tile on the PDA ... If you're getting discriminated against because you've upset the Manager use it. It does work, as it goes out of the office above his head, and he does get some shite over it!

Don't let Christmas Stress you out people, your Manager doesn't give a Shite, those above him don't give a Shite, they won't be coming into work the Saturday after Christmas. Don't Burn yourself out for these ungrateful, lazy bastards! Pace yourselves and enjoy YOUR Christmas with YOUR Family.

[thefox]

Well said sir.

[Sean06]

Recently raised a concern on the app an lo an behold it did'nt leave the office

[Dorset Plodder]

Recently raised a concern on the app an lo an behold it did'nt leave the office

I'm surprised at that Sean. We've had some good results with some ''Concerns'' raised. It does seem that those that involve pre-existing medical problems get the most attention.

Perhaps they're concerned we'll drop dead of exhaustion BEFORE completing our Delivery!

[yellowbelly]

The thing to do if you are finding it all too much is just, ''WORK TO YOUR TIME''

It's not that hard. Come in and do whatever RM want you to do, be it prepping Households or Double Prepping another Duty. Prep your own Duty and if you're due to go out the door at 10.00 inform the Manager you haven't got enough time left to complete your Delivery, is there any help for you? WHEN he says NO inform him you'll be finishing on time and will bring anything back that's left!

When he kicks off ask him what HE wants you to do, what does HE want you to prioritise? He'll probably trot out ''Make sure you deliver all Tracked and 1st class''! (We've recently had the 1st class bit added to the Mantra) You might get away with leaving some low priority stuff in the frame i.e Bulk Catalogue Mailshot. Generally they want you to take EVERYTHING because they haven't got the balls to stand up to their boss and argue your case.

Then it's up to you. If he wants Tracked, I'll deliver Tracked (AND 1st Class) and pull out everthing else as I'm going around. Put it in a box in walk order because you're going to be throwing it off again when you get back.... Very efficient And don't forget to allow enough time to do that within your Contracted Hours.

WARNING: Be prepared to get some grief from your Manager, and probably a few veiled threats thrown in. But it is down to you to be more Assertive, and not be treated like a drone. We now have the ''Raise a Concern'' tile on the PDA ... If you're getting discriminated against because you've upset the Manager use it. It does work, as it goes out of the office above his head, and he does get some shite over it!

Don't let Christmas Stress you out people, your Manager doesn't give a Shite, those above him don't give a Shite, they won't be coming into work the Saturday after Christmas. Don't Burn yourself out for these ungrateful, lazy bastards! Pace yourselves and enjoy YOUR Christmas with YOUR Family.

Where's the like button? ^^^^^^

[Sean06]

Recently raised a concern on the app an lo an behold it did'nt leave the office

I'm surprised at that Sean. We've had some good results with some ''Concerns'' raised. It does seem that those that involve pre-existing medical problems get the most attention.

Perhaps they're concerned we'll drop dead of exhaustion BEFORE completing our Delivery!

Got the result i wanted dorset but like you i thought it would have been dealt with outside the office.

[goneaway]

The thing to do if you are finding it all too much is just, ''WORK TO YOUR TIME''

It's not that hard. Come in and do whatever RM want you to do...

...Don't let Christmas Stress you out people, your Manager doesn't give a Shite, those above him don't give a Shite, they won't be coming into work the Saturday after Christmas. Don't Burn yourself out for these ungrateful, lazy bastards! Pace yourselves and enjoy YOUR Christmas with YOUR Family.

[hans solo]

christmas is now the easiest part of the year its the rest of the year when u have no staff and have to lapse and cover other walks get a grip people

You're kidding right?
We have no staff now, 1 in 10 is on sick over Xmas, we can't get mail out here, we have customers constantly on our back and are not getting out til 10am. Everyone's Xmas cards,NHS letters and even 1C are not going out.

Not getting out until 10 f**k me wait and see whats coming
We dont start until 8.12am not out doormuch before 11