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1st class mail

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Smoothbackground
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Re: 1st class mail

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SkiSunday wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 17:32
So what is your contractual hourly wage for next month then? Bearing in mind you are an ex Amazon driver, employed as a DPR driver, as a casual...or are have you been roped into working a 40hr 7 day contract on £12.54 per hour? Haha :left:

We don't judge. You maybe have a tiny bit of respect for your fellow new starts no??
Go away, RubberCzech, you’re boring — not to mention irrelevant. You’re not even a postie anymore, chum. You are, by definition, a failed postie (your own choice of words). Move on in life. Leave us posties in peace. :wave
SkiSunday
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Re: 1st class mail

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Smoothbackground wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 17:47
SkiSunday wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 17:32
So what is your contractual hourly wage for next month then? Bearing in mind you are an ex Amazon driver, employed as a DPR driver, as a casual...or are have you been roped into working a 40hr 7 day contract on £12.54 per hour? Haha :left:

We don't judge. You maybe have a tiny bit of respect for your fellow new starts no??
Go away, RubberCzech, you’re boring — not to mention irrelevant. You’re not even a postie anymore, chum. You are, by definition, a failed postie (your own choice of words). Move on in life. Leave us posties in peace. :wave
Ah yes, you were once trolling people on here saying you were being paid more than a legacy contract as a new start, yet not working in the London weighting areas.

Now you're only rebuttal to being questioned about it is... Some very odd, deflective, insulting and semi personal even? insults. haha :chuckle
SpacePhoenix
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Re: 1st class mail

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Smoothbackground wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 17:23
SpacePhoenix wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 17:04
Smoothbackground wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 15:25
At our office we’ve been told to extract anything and everything with a first class stamp but nothing else, ie, franked first class mail and everything else stays in.
Fairly sure that's actually classed as a USO failure.
And I would totally agree. Customers with franking machines who pay for the first class service should receive it, otherwise they are being ripped off.
There's also 1C PPI as well.
Smoothbackground
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Re: 1st class mail

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SkiSunday wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 19:45
Ah yes, you were once trolling people on here saying you were being paid more than a legacy contract as a new start, yet not working in the London weighting areas.

Now you're only rebuttal to being questioned about it is... Some very odd, deflective, insulting and semi personal even? insults. haha :chuckle
For anyone reading this thread anew who just wants the bare details about the new-entrant wage in a high-cost area — as a postie working in a high cost area, the new hourly rate from 1 April 2025 becomes £15.49. The overtime rate accordingly increases from £18.58 per hour to £19.36.

Now allow me to address your silly comments.

The only troll on here is yourself:

(1) You aren’t even an employee of the business. You have clearly been outwith RMG’s employment for at least a year, if not more.

(2) You have, or have had, at least five different usernames on this site. Worse than that, you have contributed to at least one thread on this forum simultaneously using two usernames thereby attempting to “bolster” whatever whimsical assertion you were then contending for but without disclosing those two ‘users’ were in fact one and the same person, ie, both you! You have deliberately sought to mislead and obfuscate.

(3) You have sought to bully users, both myself and others. I have reported several of your abusive and/or offensive posts to the mods.

You are the troll, my old chum.

Conversely, I have set out — on more than one occasion — a breakdown of my salary in detailed form, and I can even recall posting a screenshot of my payslip on this very forum a year or so back by way of corroboration of same.

Tell you what, CarryingMgmnt, SkiSunday, BouncedCzech, LondonsBurning, et al — post your own payslip, suitably redacted, so as to verify you are a current employee of the business, and I will — just for you — rerun those detailed calculations for you.
TopperGas
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Re: 1st class mail

Post by TopperGas »

Smoothbackground wrote:
01 Sep 2025, 09:12
SkiSunday wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 19:45
Ah yes, you were once trolling people on here saying you were being paid more than a legacy contract as a new start, yet not working in the London weighting areas.

Now you're only rebuttal to being questioned about it is... Some very odd, deflective, insulting and semi personal even? insults. haha :chuckle
For anyone reading this thread anew who just wants the bare details about the new-entrant wage in a high-cost area — as a postie working in a high cost area, the new hourly rate from 1 April 2025 becomes £15.49. The overtime rate accordingly increases from £18.58 per hour to £19.36.

Now allow me to address your silly comments.

The only troll on here is yourself:

(1) You aren’t even an employee of the business. You have clearly been outwith RMG’s employment for at least a year, if not more.

(2) You have, or have had, at least five different usernames on this site. Worse than that, you have contributed to at least one thread on this forum simultaneously using two usernames thereby attempting to “bolster” whatever whimsical assertion you were then contending for but without disclosing those two ‘users’ were in fact one and the same person, ie, both you! You have deliberately sought to mislead and obfuscate.

(3) You have sought to bully users, both myself and others. I have reported several of your abusive and/or offensive posts to the mods.

You are the troll, my old chum.

Conversely, I have set out — on more than one occasion — a breakdown of my salary in detailed form, and I can even recall posting a screenshot of my payslip on this very forum a year or so back by way of corroboration of same.

Tell you what, CarryingMgmnt, SkiSunday, BouncedCzech, LondonsBurning, et al — post your own payslip, suitably redacted, so as to verify you are a current employee of the business, and I will — just for you — rerun those detailed calculations for you.
So answer the question, how are you still receiving the London Allowance when you said that you no longer work in London?
TopperGas
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Re: 1st class mail

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
01 Sep 2025, 01:01
Smoothbackground wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 17:23
SpacePhoenix wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 17:04
Smoothbackground wrote:
31 Aug 2025, 15:25
At our office we’ve been told to extract anything and everything with a first class stamp but nothing else, ie, franked first class mail and everything else stays in.
Fairly sure that's actually classed as a USO failure.
And I would totally agree. Customers with franking machines who pay for the first class service should receive it, otherwise they are being ripped off.
There's also 1C PPI as well.
It's virtually impossible to deliver all the 1c, apart from stamped, plus all the Tracked and 1c parcels on two rounds without go over, unless another postie is scanning everything on one duty and sorting them into delivery order, whilst the other postie is delivering everything on the other duty.
Smoothbackground
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Re: 1st class mail

Post by Smoothbackground »

TopperGas wrote:
01 Sep 2025, 11:13
So answer the question, how are you still receiving the London Allowance when you said that you no longer work in London?
I never worked in London as an RMG employee (I was always casual in London). As such I have never received a “London Allowance”.

My hourly rate is the same paid to all new entrants where I am. We’re not in London nor anywhere close enough to receive London Weighting. I can’t answer beyond that. I would suggest that you direct your query to the business if you want a more scientific response than that which I am able to give.
SkiSunday
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Re: 1st class mail

Post by SkiSunday »

Smoothbackground wrote:
01 Sep 2025, 12:47
TopperGas wrote:
01 Sep 2025, 11:13
So answer the question, how are you still receiving the London Allowance when you said that you no longer work in London?
I never worked in London as an RMG employee (I was always casual in London). As such I have never received a “London Allowance”.

My hourly rate is the same paid to all new entrants where I am. We’re not in London nor anywhere close enough to receive London Weighting. I can’t answer beyond that. I would suggest that you direct your query to the business if you want a more scientific response than that which I am able to give.
What is your job roll at Royal Mail?
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tramssirhc
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Re: 1st class mail

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sjnb6 wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:27
the downstream access mail that just says delivered by royal. no other lettering . we were told today it's classed as first class and must go. is this correct
Part of the ODM process is changing the way we think about our work. Every day everything that is due delivery that day will be required to be taken out. That may well include items that have been delayed whilst in the system. So yes items that may not have been due delivery will become an item due delivery. The CWU knows full well that the classification of work has changed. Ask anyone working in an experimental workplace. Regardless of what Boulch says even under his heavy and light method, if it is ever a method, everything due delivery that day would be required to be taken out.
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Smoothbackground
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Re: 1st class mail

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SkiSunday wrote:
05 Sep 2025, 05:20
What is your job roll at Royal Mail?
RM Bacon Roll is my role.

And I am a current RM Bacon Roll (with OPG sauce). Current employee. Unlike you — an ex employee.
Sean06
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Re: 1st class mail

Post by Sean06 »

Smoothbackground wrote:
05 Sep 2025, 17:53
SkiSunday wrote:
05 Sep 2025, 05:20
What is your job roll at Royal Mail?
RM Bacon Roll is my role.

And I am a current RM Bacon Roll (with OPG sauce). Current employee. Unlike you — an ex employee.
Job roll thats def a new one on me :Very Happy
SkiSunday
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Re: 1st class mail

Post by SkiSunday »

Smoothbackground wrote:
05 Sep 2025, 17:53
SkiSunday wrote:
05 Sep 2025, 05:20
What is your job roll at Royal Mail?
RM Bacon Roll is my role.

And I am a current RM Bacon Roll (with OPG sauce). Current employee. Unlike you — an ex employee.
Ok then Walt :wink:
LouBarlow
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Re: 1st class mail

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Why do you cause trouble everywhere you go? Do you get no attention in the real world?
SkiSunday
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Re: 1st class mail

Post by SkiSunday »

Smoothbackground wrote:
05 Sep 2025, 17:53
SkiSunday wrote:
05 Sep 2025, 05:20
What is your job roll at Royal Mail?
RM Bacon Roll is my role.

And I am a current RM Bacon Roll (with OPG sauce). Current employee. Unlike you — an ex employee.
Should it not be a square sausage roll for you?? :hmmmm Outwith your non paid 40 minute brake time of course :wave
SkiSunday
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Re: 1st class mail

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LouBarlow wrote:
06 Sep 2025, 05:41
Why do you cause trouble everywhere you go? Do you get no attention in the real world?
Why do you gatekeep RMC every weekend? :Very Happy

Nobody cares, other than you, about your deeply personal problems with my opinions here pal. Lol