How us Newbies are treated

[smok3y666]

Anyone got a violin?

[Mr Rush]

What have Royal Mail implemented since the strikes ?

Sign in Sign out, New contracts, Rounds made bigger

SISO and the new contracts were during the strikes (October 31st and December 1st respectively) and the shambolic revisions were before them at the end of 2021/start of 2022 depending on area.

[chickenwittle]

What have Royal Mail implemented since the strikes ?

Sign in Sign out, New contracts, Rounds made bigger

SISO and the new contracts were during the strikes (October 31st and December 1st respectively) and the shambolic revisions were before them at the end of 2021/start of 2022 depending on area.

Exactly, the other poster said since the strikes.

[Smoothbackground]

What have Royal Mail implemented since the strikes ?
Sign in Sign out, New contracts, Rounds made bigger

SISO terminals were already a thing when I joined as a casual in November ‘22. Wasn’t that during the height of the strikes? The first tranche of new-entrant employees were employed during the height of the strikes too.

[Smoothbackground]

The CWU didn’t agree those contracts and are on a pathway to change them but that doesn’t suit your narrative of course.

The CWU did agree to them by way of its acquiescence.

[chickenwittle]

The CWU didn’t agree those contracts and are on a pathway to change them but that doesn’t suit your narrative of course.

The CWU did agree to them by way of its acquiescence.

That’s only in your head I’m afraid.

[BELIAL]

The CWU didn’t agree those contracts and are on a pathway to change them but that doesn’t suit your narrative of course.

The CWU did agree to them by way of its acquiescence.

That’s only in your head I’m afraid.

Can you give some examples of what action the cwu took to try to prevent these new contracts being introduced , some sort of mobilisation , a legal challenge , anything ?

[Smoothbackground]

The CWU didn’t agree those contracts and are on a pathway to change them but that doesn’t suit your narrative of course.

The CWU did agree to them by way of its acquiescence.

That’s only in your head I’m afraid.

No, it’s irrefutable fact. The CWU acquiesced.

[Mr Rush]

The CWU didn’t agree those contracts and are on a pathway to change them but that doesn’t suit your narrative of course.

The CWU did agree to them by way of its acquiescence.

That’s only in your head I’m afraid.

No, it’s irrefutable fact. The CWU acquiesced.

Legally it couldn't be rolled in with the ongoing industrial dispute without another separate ballot. It's possible the company introduced them when they did because they knew the strikes were running out of steam and it could simply bide time until the Christmas Eve gambit failed. After that they knew there would be no appetite to continue industrial action (regardless of the later successful reballot) and therefore no real challenge to the new contracts. And so they remain.

[TopperGas]

This is how we “Newbies” are treated
DP duties
Over 20 off us Newbies were encouraged to apply for full time hours on 9 day fortnight working every other Sunday - an improvement on existing Rota of 5 out of 6 Sundays
Awarded 40 hours a week
Waited 5-6 weeks for New nine day fortnight rota
Now told a few days before it starts that we will still be on five day week, no paid breaks, days up to 9.5 hours, working compulsory 5 out every 6 Sundays with Sunday hours increasing to 7.5 hours -
Unions not interested even though they put it in writing on the application sheet that it was for 9 day fortnight -
DoM says “thats it - final”
And you wonder why the majority of Newbies jack or don’t care - the company and the unions don’t give a monkeys about us

So were you all given 40 hour contracts, if so, then you're doing better than a large number of legacy contract holders who've been stuck on p/t contracts for years with no real signs they'll ever be increased. Not sure why you highlight "no paid breaks" as you must have known that was always going to be the case when you took the job?

[BELIAL]

So the cwu took the membership into a series of functional strikes that could not have been better designed to fail. It cost RM sod all in lost revenue they saved a fortune in wages and I don’t know if anyone has noticed but they don’t seem to be bothered by delays to mail.
Then they fail to mobilise any opposition to the introduction of a two tier workforce which effectively nullifies the usefulness of any and all future industrial action. Since the only power the membership had was the threat to withhold their labour the cwu have sold their members down the river for all time.

[TopperGas]

So the cwu took the membership into a series of functional strikes that could not have been better designed to fail. It cost RM sod all in lost revenue they saved a fortune in wages and I don’t know if anyone has noticed but they don’t seem to be bothered by delays to mail.
Then they fail to mobilise any opposition to the introduction of a two tier workforce which effectively nullifies the usefulness of any and all future industrial action. Since the only power the membership had was the threat to withhold their labour the cwu have sold their members down the river for all time.

What else can posties do but go on strike and so fail to deliver any mail, they can't cut off food supplies etc? What sunk the strikers were the managers and agency staff, along with the strike breakers, delivering all the Tracked items, adding to that strikers working o/t to clear the backlogs once they returned to work. The striking bin men in Birmingham highlights just how long IA can last without there ever being a successful outcome.

[BELIAL]

So the cwu took the membership into a series of functional strikes that could not have been better designed to fail. It cost RM sod all in lost revenue they saved a fortune in wages and I don’t know if anyone has noticed but they don’t seem to be bothered by delays to mail.
Then they fail to mobilise any opposition to the introduction of a two tier workforce which effectively nullifies the usefulness of any and all future industrial action. Since the only power the membership had was the threat to withhold their labour the cwu have sold their members down the river for all time.

What else can posties do but go on strike and so fail to deliver any mail, they can't cut off food supplies etc? What sunk the strikers were the managers and agency staff, along with the strike breakers, delivering all the Tracked items, adding to that strikers working o/t to clear the backlogs once they returned to work. The striking bin men in Birmingham highlights just how long IA can last without there ever being a successful outcome.

Are you being wilfully thick?

[qwerty2]

Anyone got a violin?

[Judgee]

Newbies have traditionally always been treated really really s**t By RM it's nothing new!

But think of it as a right of passage. If you keep your head down, keep your nose clean and work really hard... in a couple of decades you'll no longer be a newbie and RM will only treat you really s**t!