Colleague kicked off round

[SpacePhoenix]

I think the only way any USO reform is ever going to work in our office is if there is a full revision and re-pick. It is pointless advertising duties when the walks are all over the place and are unequal.

Most of the duties in our office are paired walks and it is largely expected that they will be doing 2 or 3 days worth of mail. Without a complete reset what you will end up with are posties only ever working their days off if it's on their own round whilst someone else who is playing by the rules is still expected to pick up 2 or 3 days worth of mail everyday. Managers wanting "bums on seats" to get all the walks covered is completely at odds with the business as a whole which is trying to save money by not getting them covered!

Have been told by the union rep the USO reform triggers a resign.

In MCs with the upcoming realignments there'll probably a completely new duty set, maybe RM will be doing the same in DOs so that no old duties exist

[kazardaimenu]

They'll have to stick their name in the hat like anyone else who is interested in that duty. If they are the most senior outta all the candidates then they should get it. They don't have squatters rights to the duty

Exactly this. Manager’s let him have an easy ride for a couple of years but has to advertise it on the open market now.

[Londonsburning]

Hopefully they start realigning folk between delivery and indoor duties when this all kicks in. Seniority is king and the only way to fairly allocate duties locally within the business.

[kazardaimenu]

I think the only way any USO reform is ever going to work in our office is if there is a full revision and re-pick. It is pointless advertising duties when the walks are all over the place and are unequal.

Most of the duties in our office are paired walks and it is largely expected that they will be doing 2 or 3 days worth of mail. Without a complete reset what you will end up with are posties only ever working their days off if it's on their own round whilst someone else who is playing by the rules is still expected to pick up 2 or 3 days worth of mail everyday. Managers wanting "bums on seats" to get all the walks covered is completely at odds with the business as a whole which is trying to save money by not getting them covered!

Have been told by the union rep the USO reform triggers a resign.

It has to. And a revision will be needed too. Double or 3x mail on current rounds will fail.

[Perseus]

Hopefully they start realigning folk between delivery and indoor duties when this all kicks in. Seniority is king and the only way to fairly allocate duties locally within the business.

I think too much emphasis is being put on having a resign of duties within offices, as a kind of carrot to get people on board with it. I mean, if all the duties are going to be as equally unachievable as each other then what does it matter what duty you end up with. Sure, people might have a preference for a certain area, or have their eye on a duty that has been given to someone else under certain circumstances, but I feel a lot of people are in for a 'grass isn't always greener' awakening.

[Londonsburning]

I can assure you for people like myself and probably tens of thousands of other delivery OPGs, a chance of taking a processing duty over this nonsense is favourable.

[Perseus]

I had no idea that would be an option, going from DO to processing. Good luck if thats what comes to pass.

[Londonsburning]

I had no idea that would be an option, going from DO to processing. Good luck if thats what comes to pass.

We used to have duty auctions back in the day. CWU put a stop to it 20 years ago unfortunately.

[SpacePhoenix]

I can assure you for people like myself and probably tens of thousands of other delivery OPGs, a chance of taking a processing duty over this nonsense is favourable.

Lets hope you get replaced with a casual then. Some shifts now are just about all casuals/agency. On my shift we must be getting towards somewhere around 3/4 of staff on shift being casuals/agency some nights, it's just about always over 1/2. DO staff have got o% chance of moving over to processing, unless they're DDA though even then they've probably got just about 0% chance as the DDA will already be spoken for in MCs.

Probably within about 5 or 6 years there won't be any RM posties in MCs, it'll all be casuals/agency

[Londonsburning]

I can assure you for people like myself and probably tens of thousands of other delivery OPGs, a chance of taking a processing duty over this nonsense is favourable.

Lets hope you get replaced with a casual then. Some shifts now are just about all casuals/agency. On my shift we must be getting towards somewhere around 3/4 of staff on shift being casuals/agency some nights, it's just about always over 1/2. DO staff have got o% chance of moving over to processing, unless they're DDA though even then they've probably got just about 0% chance as the DDA will already be spoken for in MCs.

Probably within about 5 or 6 years there won't be any RM posties in MCs, it'll all be casuals/agency

No wonder they are replacing processing duties with agency. RM must be hemorrhaging money paying them more than minimum wage. Easiest job in the business by a country mile.

[SpacePhoenix]

I can assure you for people like myself and probably tens of thousands of other delivery OPGs, a chance of taking a processing duty over this nonsense is favourable.

Lets hope you get replaced with a casual then. Some shifts now are just about all casuals/agency. On my shift we must be getting towards somewhere around 3/4 of staff on shift being casuals/agency some nights, it's just about always over 1/2. DO staff have got o% chance of moving over to processing, unless they're DDA though even then they've probably got just about 0% chance as the DDA will already be spoken for in MCs.

Probably within about 5 or 6 years there won't be any RM posties in MCs, it'll all be casuals/agency

No wonder they are replacing processing duties with agency. RM must be hemorrhaging money paying them more than minimum wage. Easiest job in the business by a country mile.

I'll have a good laugh when you get replaced with agency. It's a matter of when, not if RM start replacing delivery staff with a combination of agency and owner-drivers. With agency RM can get away with having as few or as many staff who are needed to cover for forecast workload

[Londonsburning]

I can assure you for people like myself and probably tens of thousands of other delivery OPGs, a chance of taking a processing duty over this nonsense is favourable.

Lets hope you get replaced with a casual then. Some shifts now are just about all casuals/agency. On my shift we must be getting towards somewhere around 3/4 of staff on shift being casuals/agency some nights, it's just about always over 1/2. DO staff have got o% chance of moving over to processing, unless they're DDA though even then they've probably got just about 0% chance as the DDA will already be spoken for in MCs.

Probably within about 5 or 6 years there won't be any RM posties in MCs, it'll all be casuals/agency

No wonder they are replacing processing duties with agency. RM must be hemorrhaging money paying them more than minimum wage. Easiest job in the business by a country mile.

I'll have a good laugh when you get replaced with agency. It's a matter of when, not if RM start replacing delivery staff with a combination of agency and owner-drivers. With agency RM can get away with having as few or as many staff who are needed to cover for forecast workload

I hope that brings you some joy

[TopperGas]

I can assure you for people like myself and probably tens of thousands of other delivery OPGs, a chance of taking a processing duty over this nonsense is favourable.

Lets hope you get replaced with a casual then. Some shifts now are just about all casuals/agency. On my shift we must be getting towards somewhere around 3/4 of staff on shift being casuals/agency some nights, it's just about always over 1/2. DO staff have got o% chance of moving over to processing, unless they're DDA though even then they've probably got just about 0% chance as the DDA will already be spoken for in MCs.

Probably within about 5 or 6 years there won't be any RM posties in MCs, it'll all be casuals/agency

It must be an easy job to learn then if it can eventually go 100% causal/agency?