LTB 581/21 - Resourcing Across Royal Mail

[A2B]

Whats SA?

Scheduled Attendance

I'm part time and always do my own prep in the morning. Is this classed as scheduled Attendance?

No, when you agree to do an SA duty you sign a seperate contract where you commit to do that SA duty for a set period of time.

[leefarrell26]

Whats SA?

Scheduled Attendance

I'm part time and always do my own prep in the morning. Is this classed as scheduled Attendance?

No, when you agree to do an SA duty you sign a seperate contract where you commit to do that SA duty for a set period of time.

ok, thanks. So much Jargon in RM.

[HTPostman]

Well I had February on my RM vs CWU sweepstake so I’ve lost that.

So predictable. Is it now time for the fight of our lives, solidarity, rise up etc? I bet Uncle Simon is planning the £100 (pro rata) carrot to keep us at bay.

[Sir Henry]

Did we look as if we were going to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat? Well not at our DO.

Maybe it wasn't going to be the almighty nationwide clusterfuck they needed to sell to Ofcom so they're moving the goalposts at the last minute.

That or they're relying on the inevitable drop off of mail post-Xmas during which we can play catch-up.

Come the revolution....

[POSTMAN]

Achim Dunnwald
Hi all, to clarify - we have issued guidance earlier this week to support the local units as we prepare ourselves to move into the post-peak period. Using our existing agreements, we encourage the field ops managers (especially the DOMs) to review their resourcing position and work with the local CWU reps to determine the right mix between fixed and variable resource, keeping in mind our quality and productivity targets.

I will shortly be issuing a managers update to address the concerns raised in more detail.

[postieblueshirt]

Yes it's a big thankyou from royal mail thanks for all the hard work battling through an epidemic because we all know postmen and women can't die from something like other people.you could not make this sh** up if you tried.used to be a proud worker for royal mail now tho ha ha ha ha

[Cucumber]

Like ALL S/A?

S/A is used as a carrot in our place (like most others i'd imagine) to get people to do slightly awkward shifts (mid to late afternoon/early evening CSP etc)
Are they hoping the current holders of the SA keep doing it for much less per annum (IIRC they get it even when off on holiday/sick), or are they lining up some zero hour agency staff to do it?

[TopperGas]

Whats SA?

Scheduled Attendance

I'm part time and always do my own prep in the morning. Is this classed as scheduled Attendance?

No, when you agree to do an SA duty you sign a seperate contract where you commit to do that SA duty for a set period of time.

SA in our DO is used for the afternoon/evening collections but nobody seems to have signed a contract to do it, just agreed they'll do it if asked to do so by the DM/DOM?

[Marshamp11]

I was under the impression that if SA was taken away or you you no longer wished to perform SA, either party had to give 28 days prior notice of their intention.

[TopperGas]

What does this even mean? These wordy statements from the union always hurt my brain.

Why doesn't the letter actually explain what's apparently happening? I assume it implies that notice is being given that SA is ending, if so, then what's replacing it as somebody is going to have to do the work presently met by the SA payments?

[clashcityrocker]

SA is used to prevent part time staff gaining improved contracts.
There may be some instances where it is warranted but most of it is full time staff lining their pockets at the expense of their part time colleagues.
If they gave notice to all SA holders tomorrow I would be cheering them on.

[TopperGas]

SA is used to prevent part time staff gaining improved contracts.
There may be some instances where it is warranted but most of it is full time staff lining their pockets at the expense of their part time colleagues.
If they gave notice to all SA holders tomorrow I would be cheering them on.

That's fine until they then ask the p/t'ers to do it on the standard rate o/t rather than the enhanced SA rates presently being paid?

Does anybody understand when SA is supposed to be paid rather than just o/t? As I mentioned above it's paid for collections in our DO, I'm not sure when else it's paid?

[POSTMAN]

Not sure how right this is...

CWU North East Divisional Reps.

Hi everyone,
We have had some clarity on the Royal Mail Finance strategy please see below and we have attached the LTB Terry has sent out on the subject below
Mail centres YDC’s and Distribution are not affected.
Scheduled Attendance will not be removed
Agency staff will be laid off in line with Xmas principles but where there is still a need they will be kept EG Coulby Newham and LAT work
FTC’s will be looked at but we have been clear that if through no fault of their own they are on a FTC and not permanent we will not accept them being dismissed
We have been assured there will be discussions at area level on this
There is not a total freeze on recruitment but they are reviewing it.
We must ensure wherever possible USO is not put at risk because of budget and if we need to challenge the recruitment process because there are too many vacancies which has an impact on USO we should use the IR Framework.
Thanks
Bob Mc / Gary H / Steve W

[Sir Henry]

So we hired more temps to keep us in line with the promises we made in public to keep the media and MPs happy. Now we are going to jettison as many of them as we can as quickly as possible. No need to worry about the mountains of undelivered letters, cards, flats and untracked packets. Why? We believe that if it hasn't been delivered before Xmas the public's disappointment won't be vastly increased if it reaches them days or even weeks after the fact. Having worked the front line into the ground in the run up to Xmas why not work them further and deliver the remaining backlog during the traditional slack post-peak period to keep them mean and lean after the trough-fest that is Christmastide? It will tie in with our new motto
Post All Year for Xmas Just In Case. It'll be fun, like the National Lottery but with prizes the public have already paid for themselves.
Thanks to our sales team for that great idea written on the back of a beer mat.

[Cucumber]

SA is used to prevent part time staff gaining improved contracts.
There may be some instances where it is warranted but most of it is full time staff lining their pockets at the expense of their part time colleagues.
If they gave notice to all SA holders tomorrow I would be cheering them on.

That's fine until they then ask the p/t'ers to do it on the standard rate o/t rather than the enhanced SA rates presently being paid?

Does anybody understand when SA is supposed to be paid rather than just o/t? As I mentioned above it's paid for collections in our DO, I'm not sure when else it's paid?

Incredibly, I think offices are allowed to CHOOSE how much SA they want. If that is the case then it's little wonder the bean counters are all over it. Not to mention that when it is abused, it stops PT staff getting contracted FT hours.