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Bullying/intimidation

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Marshamp11
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by Marshamp11 »

Most of the time they walk away by just telling them what they want to hear. In extreme cases where that doesn't work use there way of communicating back to them, there by bullying the bully.
Another technique that my buddy uses to great effect is to act like a complete dim wit by saying I still don't get what you saying or want me to do over and over. Watching a guvnor walking away in complete meltdown is a joy to watch.
I know its not for everyone and we do become a bit of a target sometimes but hey if while they are targeting us then they are leaving somebody less able to deal with "Culture" alone.
postslippete
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

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aiden01 wrote: ↑
18 Apr 2021, 21:34
postslippete wrote: ↑
18 Apr 2021, 20:50
Normally the best way would be to go straight to the DOMs office and have a word in private. However, in some offices that isn't possible if the manager in question is best buddies with their DOM and you feel that they might round up and gang up on you in some way.

So best bet is the bullying and harassment helpline. It gets recorded and therefore dealt with properly.
Never have a word in private always have a rep or colleague with you.

Actually I completely disagree with you on this occasion but thanks for your outdated and old fashioned input.

This scenario is not the same when a manager is conducting code you and you are advised to bring in a Union rep. Most DOMs have been trained in bullying and harassment and its something that I know that Royal Mail take very seriously, partly because they need to show that they are making the workplace fair, giving workers confidence in raising an issue and to help prevent unacceptable behaviour.

The next step would be to ring up the bullying helpline.

The next step if bullying & harassment continues is the formal grievance process.
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by aiden01 »

postslippete wrote: ↑
21 Apr 2021, 21:39
aiden01 wrote: ↑
18 Apr 2021, 21:34
postslippete wrote: ↑
18 Apr 2021, 20:50
Normally the best way would be to go straight to the DOMs office and have a word in private. However, in some offices that isn't possible if the manager in question is best buddies with their DOM and you feel that they might round up and gang up on you in some way.

So best bet is the bullying and harassment helpline. It gets recorded and therefore dealt with properly.
Never have a word in private always have a rep or colleague with you.

Actually I completely disagree with you on this occasion but thanks for your outdated and old fashioned input.

This scenario is not the same when a manager is conducting code you and you are advised to bring in a Union rep. Most DOMs have been trained in bullying and harassment and its something that I know that Royal Mail take very seriously, partly because they need to show that they are making the workplace fair, giving workers confidence in raising an issue and to help prevent unacceptable behaviour.

The next step would be to ring up the bullying helpline.

The next step if bullying & harassment continues is the formal grievance process.
Outdated an old fashioned input wtf. yet in your own post you admit this might not be possible in some offices.🙄 make your mind up.
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by aiden01 »

postslippete wrote: ↑
21 Apr 2021, 21:39
aiden01 wrote: ↑
18 Apr 2021, 21:34
postslippete wrote: ↑
18 Apr 2021, 20:50
Normally the best way would be to go straight to the DOMs office and have a word in private. However, in some offices that isn't possible if the manager in question is best buddies with their DOM and you feel that they might round up and gang up on you in some way.

So best bet is the bullying and harassment helpline. It gets recorded and therefore dealt with properly.
Never have a word in private always have a rep or colleague with you.

Actually I completely disagree with you on this occasion but thanks for your outdated and old fashioned input.

This scenario is not the same when a manager is conducting code you and you are advised to bring in a Union rep. Most DOMs have been trained in bullying and harassment and its something that I know that Royal Mail take very seriously, partly because they need to show that they are making the workplace fair, giving workers confidence in raising an issue and to help prevent unacceptable behaviour.

The next step would be to ring up the bullying helpline.

The next step if bullying & harassment continues is the formal grievance process.
Rm take bullying an harrassment very seriously you really are having a laugh.
clashcityrocker
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by clashcityrocker »

aiden01 wrote: ↑
22 Apr 2021, 08:45


Rm take bullying an harassment very seriously you really are having a laugh.
If they didn't take it very seriously they wouldn't be doing it as often as they are.
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postslippete
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by postslippete »

aiden01 wrote: ↑
22 Apr 2021, 08:42

Outdated an old fashioned input wtf. yet in your own post you admit this might not be possible in some offices.🙄 make your mind up.

Most posties are male and therefore tend not to speak about problems or issues that they have. You know as well as I do that they are about as likely to have another colleague or rep in there discussing their problems as you are to admitting that you might have a problem. That is why the bullying and harassment support line was set up in the first place.

All I was pointing out to the OP was that DOMs are trained in bullying and harassment and RM do take it seriously. It might be the best call if your DOM is understanding and not some arrogant prick that doesn't want to listen. In which case you would take notes and ring the bullying and harassment helpline. It adds quite a bit of weight when you tell them that you have spoken to the manager's manager about it.
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circles
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by circles »

Dindin wrote: ↑
20 Apr 2021, 17:54
The fear of the place is making me tremble for tomorrow.
Man up. They're a bunch of dickheads and to a man they crumble like a wet birthday cake when challenged
Smith1212
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by Smith1212 »

What a great reply 🙃
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by Woody Guthrie »

circles wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 06:56
Dindin wrote: ↑
20 Apr 2021, 17:54
The fear of the place is making me tremble for tomorrow.
Man up. They're a bunch of dickheads and to a man they crumble like a wet birthday cake when challenged
There are roughly 12,000 managers in Royal Mail and some of them are even women. :shock:
How many have you met?
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circles
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by circles »

Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 14:14
circles wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 06:56
Dindin wrote: ↑
20 Apr 2021, 17:54
The fear of the place is making me tremble for tomorrow.
Man up. They're a bunch of dickheads and to a man they crumble like a wet birthday cake when challenged
There are roughly 12,000 managers in Royal Mail and some of them are even women. :shock:
How many have you met?
And?
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by Woody Guthrie »

circles wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 14:45
Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 14:14
circles wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 06:56
Dindin wrote: ↑
20 Apr 2021, 17:54
The fear of the place is making me tremble for tomorrow.
Man up. They're a bunch of dickheads and to a man they crumble like a wet birthday cake when challenged
There are roughly 12,000 managers in Royal Mail and some of them are even women. :shock:
How many have you met?
And?
Since you're obviously struggling with the concept.
You've met a statistically insignificant number of managers in your career so your advice is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
Only dead fish follow the current
clashcityrocker
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by clashcityrocker »

circles wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 06:56

Man up.
Telling someone to "man up" is about as useful as telling someone suffering from depression to "pull themselves together".
It is non advice displaying an astonishing ignorance of the problems people are facing.
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Dorset Plodder
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by Dorset Plodder »

clashcityrocker wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 16:04
circles wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 06:56

Man up.


Telling someone to "man up" is about as useful as telling someone suffering from depression to "pull themselves together".

It is non advice displaying an astonishing ignorance of the problems people are facing.
Well said mate. :Applause Totally stupid comment. There's a lot of quite unassuming people in the Business that are disproportionately effected by Management Bullying Techniques. :cuppa
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

circles wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 06:56
Man up. They're a bunch of dickheads and to a man they crumble like a wet birthday cake when challenged
That is the worst advice possible and not very supportive either,

1. Man up indicates you think the person being bullied is weak, it's hardly going to instil them with confidence and get them to do what you suggest.
2. Don't you think most people that have been bullied, or are being bullied have contemplated doing what you suggest.
3. It seems to indicate you think only men are capable of bullying,
4. If you really wanted to offer valid advice, telling them to "man up" right at the beginning, and in such a manner, kind of ruins it.

The advice you gave, in some circumstances is probably valid, the way you gave it was insensitive and crass.
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Dindin
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Re: Bullying/intimidation

Post by Dindin »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote: ↑
29 Apr 2021, 08:42
circles wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2021, 06:56
Man up. They're a bunch of dickheads and to a man they crumble like a wet birthday cake when challenged
That is the worst advice possible and not very supportive either,

1. Man up indicates you think the person being bullied is weak, it's hardly going to instil them with confidence and get them to do what you suggest.
2. Don't you think most people that have been bullied, or are being bullied have contemplated doing what you suggest.
3. It seems to indicate you think only men are capable of bullying,
4. If you really wanted to offer valid advice, telling them to "man up" right at the beginning, and in such a manner, kind of ruins it.

The advice you gave, in some circumstances is probably valid, the way you gave it was insensitive and crass.
I can assure you I'm not being bullied. If they start on me on going sick long term
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