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Offices 'officially' in trouble?
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Jb1969
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
By the time they get to the Government Enquiry, RM will be running like a finely tuned engine, not one letter in a frame!!
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qwerty2
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Mr Rush
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
The last few years that's been the orogeny that's set apart the [supposedly] quiet post-Christmas season from the rest of the year. Frankly, I think this year the impact will resemble that of the pile of plastic bags filled with human waste atop Mount Everest - ie, a rounding error in the grander shitshow.
Any Questions?
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ted_e_bear
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
Hopefully if this year they send them DSA economy DTS or whatever it's called it might take the edge off a bit if they initially trickle through (I can't remember if that was available last year or before)
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jessicarabbit
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
Mail Centres haven't got the capacity to store them every day while waiting for a first class letter to go with it. We've been told they will all come in one hit and we will get to manage them ourselves over 3 days. Usually what happens is they arrive on your day off and your round is not covered or your day off cover decides to not do any of them so you will end up taking the majority of them on one day anyway.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
We've been told that the higher ups above MC level don't want it sat around in MCs for days until it all hits the 5 day limit and gets released anyway.jessicarabbit wrote: ↑03 Mar 2026, 08:04Mail Centres haven't got the capacity to store them every day while waiting for a first class letter to go with it. We've been told they will all come in one hit and we will get to manage them ourselves over 3 days. Usually what happens is they arrive on your day off and your round is not covered or your day off cover decides to not do any of them so you will end up taking the majority of them on one day anyway.
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Barnacle
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
Did they decide that before or after parliament got wind of them delaying mail in MCs before delivery offices have a chance to leave it in frames?SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑03 Mar 2026, 10:20We've been told that the higher ups above MC level don't want it sat around in MCs for days until it all hits the 5 day limit and gets released anyway.jessicarabbit wrote: ↑03 Mar 2026, 08:04Mail Centres haven't got the capacity to store them every day while waiting for a first class letter to go with it. We've been told they will all come in one hit and we will get to manage them ourselves over 3 days. Usually what happens is they arrive on your day off and your round is not covered or your day off cover decides to not do any of them so you will end up taking the majority of them on one day anyway.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
We're sorry for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. We will regularly update customers on the offices most impacted here:
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Aldershot DO (GU11, GU12)
Carterton DO (OX18)
Eastwood DO (NG16)
Glasgow DO (G15)
Johnstone DO (PA5, PA6, PA9, PA10, PA12)
Newcastle Under Lyme DO (ST5, ST55)
Penarth DO (CF64)
Pontefract DO (WF7, WF8, WF9, WF11)
Shrewsbury DO (SY1, SY2, SY3, SY4, SY5)
Sutton DO (SM1, SM2, SM3)
Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)
The number of years of marriage marked in a silver wedding anniversary.
USO Trial offices
Antrim, Arlington, Ayr, Ballymena, Blackwood, Brinklow, Bulwell, Cardiff, Carlton, Cheltenham, Clifton, Coventry North, Cumbernauld, Fleetwood, Girvan Hadleigh, Hexham, Hull Malmo Road, Louth, Lytham St Annes, Melton Mowbray, Mount Pleasant W, Newton Mearns, North Finchley, Nottingham North, Preston South, Romsey, Salisbury, Scunthorpe, Southend On Sea, Stockton On Tees, Stoke Newington, Tenterden, Tonbridge, Trowbridge, Usk, Winchester.
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Aldershot DO (GU11, GU12)
Carterton DO (OX18)
Eastwood DO (NG16)
Glasgow DO (G15)
Johnstone DO (PA5, PA6, PA9, PA10, PA12)
Newcastle Under Lyme DO (ST5, ST55)
Penarth DO (CF64)
Pontefract DO (WF7, WF8, WF9, WF11)
Shrewsbury DO (SY1, SY2, SY3, SY4, SY5)
Sutton DO (SM1, SM2, SM3)
Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)
The number of years of marriage marked in a silver wedding anniversary.
USO Trial offices
Antrim, Arlington, Ayr, Ballymena, Blackwood, Brinklow, Bulwell, Cardiff, Carlton, Cheltenham, Clifton, Coventry North, Cumbernauld, Fleetwood, Girvan Hadleigh, Hexham, Hull Malmo Road, Louth, Lytham St Annes, Melton Mowbray, Mount Pleasant W, Newton Mearns, North Finchley, Nottingham North, Preston South, Romsey, Salisbury, Scunthorpe, Southend On Sea, Stockton On Tees, Stoke Newington, Tenterden, Tonbridge, Trowbridge, Usk, Winchester.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
Mail isn't being delayed in MCs, it gets released based on the product that has been used. DTS is short for Delivery to Specification. If a DP has a 1C item then anything for that DP gets released. If any item has hit the limit based on the product used then anything for that DP is released.Barnacle wrote: ↑03 Mar 2026, 11:44Did they decide that before or after parliament got wind of them delaying mail in MCs before delivery offices have a chance to leave it in frames?SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑03 Mar 2026, 10:20We've been told that the higher ups above MC level don't want it sat around in MCs for days until it all hits the 5 day limit and gets released anyway.jessicarabbit wrote: ↑03 Mar 2026, 08:04Mail Centres haven't got the capacity to store them every day while waiting for a first class letter to go with it. We've been told they will all come in one hit and we will get to manage them ourselves over 3 days. Usually what happens is they arrive on your day off and your round is not covered or your day off cover decides to not do any of them so you will end up taking the majority of them on one day anyway.
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Mr Rush
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
Why is anything being held at the MCs under DTS? If it's all going to be treated like Mailsort of old then just let us leave it in the frames until it has a higher spec item.jessicarabbit wrote: ↑03 Mar 2026, 08:04Mail Centres haven't got the capacity to store them every day while waiting for a first class letter to go with it. We've been told they will all come in one hit and we will get to manage them ourselves over 3 days.
Take this week for instance. Previous days have been dead until all that DTS stuff hit us this morning - the most inconvenient arrangement possible since packets have now exploded. So instead of letting us exercise our own judgement to fill spare capacity yesterday, now it's spending Day 6 sitting in the DO. Micromanagement is not the answer.
Any Questions?
Yeah, how do I get out of this chickenshit outfit?
Yeah, how do I get out of this chickenshit outfit?
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funkflex55
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
We get the same every week, quiet first few days then usually on Friday we ended up with s**t loads as it all gets released after hitting the hold limit. I hope that once the ODM starts this holding ends. Because otherwise you'll have double mail and the usual to end of week deluge of junk mail.
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lforleee2004
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
Meanwhile in one of those offices, they are cutting staff as there stills parcels/mail at 8:30pm to be done
. Yet they probley will blame the weather or somthing
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
Once the ODM comes in the holding will increase as for alternating days all mail for some walks will be held, and then released based on the product. In practice even less mail will be released before it hits the time limit.funkflex55 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2026, 18:30We get the same every week, quiet first few days then usually on Friday we ended up with s**t loads as it all gets released after hitting the hold limit. I hope that once the ODM starts this holding ends. Because otherwise you'll have double mail and the usual to end of week deluge of junk mail.
It used to be much easier running the CSS machines before DTS came in as you didn't have to keep emptying stackers 18 and 19 which the deferred stuff comes out of. Some days you end up spending so much time emptying stackers 18 and 19.
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ted_e_bear
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
Yeah that sounds about right, perhaps when whatever odm comes in they'll have to rethink/tweak it, some comments are saying RM don't want loads of council tax letters clogging up mail centres so presumably having to hold loads more mail until it's due for delivery won't work either, it's looking apparent that they don't really want the inconvenience of mail so maybe they'll up the price and ditch offering the cheap service.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑03 Mar 2026, 21:03Once the ODM comes in the holding will increase as for alternating days all mail for some walks will be held, and then released based on the product. In practice even less mail will be released before it hits the time limit.funkflex55 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2026, 18:30We get the same every week, quiet first few days then usually on Friday we ended up with s**t loads as it all gets released after hitting the hold limit. I hope that once the ODM starts this holding ends. Because otherwise you'll have double mail and the usual to end of week deluge of junk mail.
It used to be much easier running the CSS machines before DTS came in as you didn't have to keep emptying stackers 18 and 19 which the deferred stuff comes out of. Some days you end up spending so much time emptying stackers 18 and 19.
Who knows, tbh I don't really care that much anymore, working for this company that seem incapable of doing anything without f***ing it up has taken its toll.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Offices 'officially' in trouble?
We're sorry for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. We will regularly update customers on the offices most impacted here:
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Aldershot DO (GU11, GU12)
Carterton DO (OX18)
Eastwood DO (NG16)
Glasgow DO (G15)
Johnstone DO (PA5, PA6, PA9, PA10, PA12)
Newcastle Under Lyme DO (ST5, ST55)
Penarth DO (CF64)
Pontefract DO (WF7, WF8, WF9, WF11)
Pontyclun DO (CF72)
Shrewsbury DO (SY1, SY2, SY3, SY4, SY5)
Sileby SPDO (LE12)
Sutton DO (SM1, SM2, SM3)
Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)
The Clebsch surface has 27 exceptional lines can be defined over the real numbers.
USO Trial offices
Antrim, Arlington, Ayr, Ballymena, Blackwood, Brinklow, Bulwell, Cardiff, Carlton, Cheltenham, Clifton, Coventry North, Cumbernauld, Fleetwood, Girvan Hadleigh, Hexham, Hull Malmo Road, Louth, Lytham St Annes, Melton Mowbray, Mount Pleasant W, Newton Mearns, North Finchley, Nottingham North, Preston South, Romsey, Salisbury, Scunthorpe, Southend On Sea, Stockton On Tees, Stoke Newington, Tenterden, Tonbridge, Trowbridge, Usk, Winchester.
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Aldershot DO (GU11, GU12)
Carterton DO (OX18)
Eastwood DO (NG16)
Glasgow DO (G15)
Johnstone DO (PA5, PA6, PA9, PA10, PA12)
Newcastle Under Lyme DO (ST5, ST55)
Penarth DO (CF64)
Pontefract DO (WF7, WF8, WF9, WF11)
Pontyclun DO (CF72)
Shrewsbury DO (SY1, SY2, SY3, SY4, SY5)
Sileby SPDO (LE12)
Sutton DO (SM1, SM2, SM3)
Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)
The Clebsch surface has 27 exceptional lines can be defined over the real numbers.
USO Trial offices
Antrim, Arlington, Ayr, Ballymena, Blackwood, Brinklow, Bulwell, Cardiff, Carlton, Cheltenham, Clifton, Coventry North, Cumbernauld, Fleetwood, Girvan Hadleigh, Hexham, Hull Malmo Road, Louth, Lytham St Annes, Melton Mowbray, Mount Pleasant W, Newton Mearns, North Finchley, Nottingham North, Preston South, Romsey, Salisbury, Scunthorpe, Southend On Sea, Stockton On Tees, Stoke Newington, Tenterden, Tonbridge, Trowbridge, Usk, Winchester.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.