Offices 'officially' in trouble?

[LouBarlow]

We have a good ten rounds a day only have the tracked go out and have never been on the list. How do you even make it on there?

So in theory if you've got 33 or less duties you should be on the list if the criteria is this -

Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)

How did I miss that? That is why we aren’t. We have over 100.

No, it's Delivery Points not duties. At current callrates it's theoretically possible for nothing at all to leave the door and still limbo under the 30% rule.

For example: 50% of duties fully failing multiplied by a 25% callrate = 13% rounded up. Only 13% of addresses within an office had an item ready for delivery which then failed to be delivered on that same day. I don't know how multiple days of rollovers factor into that - officially, what didn't go out on Monday gets prioritised on Tuesday, etc.

I still don’t think we would qualify as rural and town rounds seem to be failing in equal numbers so that percentage still kind of works.

[ted_e_bear]

We have a good ten rounds a day only have the tracked go out and have never been on the list. How do you even make it on there?

So in theory if you've got 33 or less duties you should be on the list if the criteria is this -

Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)

How did I miss that? That is why we aren’t. We have over 100.

No, it's Delivery Points not duties. At current callrates it's theoretically possible for nothing at all to leave the door and still limbo under the 30% rule.

For example: 50% of duties fully failing multiplied by a 25% callrate = 13% rounded up. Only 13% of addresses within an office had an item ready for delivery which then failed to be delivered on that same day. I don't know how multiple days of rollovers factor into that - officially, what didn't go out on Monday gets prioritised on Tuesday, etc.

I still don’t think we would qualify as rural and town rounds seem to be failing in equal numbers so that percentage still kind of works.

Yeah I used the example of duties as a basic rough idea, iirc there was something I read on here a while ago that if a duty failed then say for example one row failed then the failure was 25% of the duty as opposed to only the 50 or whatever addresses that actually had items of mail.

So if this has changed or wasn't even the case anyway and they count the amount of addresses with items for delivery as a percentage of the total office addresses then yes that would take a lot longer to reach the 30% figure.

[POSTMAN]

We're sorry for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. We will regularly update customers on the offices most impacted here:

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Ashington DO (NE22, NE62, NE63, NE64)
Banbridge DO (BT32)
Beverley DO (HU11, HU17, HU18)
Brechin DO (DD9)
Bridge Of Weir DO (PA11, PA13)
Carterton DO (OX18)
Daventry DO (NN11)
Egremont DO (CA21, CA22, CA23, CA24, CA25, CA27)
Kingswood DO (BS15, BS30)
Leicester East DO (LE2, LE5-LE7)
Lisburn DO (BT26-BT28)
Lochgelly DO (KY5)
Nantwich DO (CW5)
Pontefract DO (WF7, WF8, WF9, WF11)
Prenton DO (CH43)
Sleaford DO (NG34)
Sutton In Ashfield DO (NG17)

Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)


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USO Trial offices
Antrim, Arlington, Ayr, Ballymena, Blackwood, Brinklow, Bulwell, Cardiff, Carlton, Cheltenham, Clifton, Coventry North, Cumbernauld, Fleetwood, Girvan Hadleigh, Hexham, Hull Malmo Road, Louth, Lytham St Annes, Melton Mowbray, Mount Pleasant W, Newton Mearns, North Finchley, Nottingham North, Preston South, Romsey, Salisbury, Scunthorpe, Southend On Sea, Stockton On Tees, Stoke Newington, Tenterden, Tonbridge, Trowbridge, Usk, Winchester.

[scotchy1962]

Not sure if the ever shrinking list is true or a complete cover-up to try to get the public pressure away from the company, i am going for the second one.

[Mr Rush]

iirc there was something I read on here a while ago that if a duty failed then say for example one row failed then the failure was 25% of the duty as opposed to only the 50 or whatever addresses that actually had items of mail.

So if this has changed or wasn't even the case anyway and they count the amount of addresses with items for delivery as a percentage of the total office addresses then yes that would take a lot longer to reach the 30% figure.

Yes, I recall reading something along those lines. It may be that for reasons of practicality, management will look at a frame and categorise it approximately rather than counting every letter or DP (I know I would, allegedly ).

Still, I think callrates are factored in after that, though it's hard to explain how any office can appear on the list when letters are at current volumes. Maybe the calculation is cumulative for every day rolled over - Week 2 of December, for example: Day 1 45% > Day 2 66% > Day 3 84%... Day 14 100% wall of paper.

It's all a mystery and we can only infer so much because the company isn't going to divulge its methodology. If the union was conducting its own survey of units we could compare and contrast.

[Barnacle]

iirc there was something I read on here a while ago that if a duty failed then say for example one row failed then the failure was 25% of the duty as opposed to only the 50 or whatever addresses that actually had items of mail.

So if this has changed or wasn't even the case anyway and they count the amount of addresses with items for delivery as a percentage of the total office addresses then yes that would take a lot longer to reach the 30% figure.

Yes, I recall reading something along those lines. It may be that for reasons of practicality, management will look at a frame and categorise it approximately rather than counting every letter or DP (I know I would, allegedly ).

Still, I think callrates are factored in after that, though it's hard to explain how any office can appear on the list when letters are at current volumes. Maybe the calculation is cumulative for every day rolled over - Week 2 of December, for example: Day 1 45% > Day 2 66% > Day 3 84%... Day 14 100% wall of paper.

It's all a mystery and we can only infer so much because the company isn't going to divulge its methodology. If the union was conducting its own survey of units we could compare and contrast.

OFCOM should change the guidelines on counting failure. A walk that hasn’t gone out is a whole fail. 1. If an office has 10 walks then it is easy to visualise the impact of 1 fail. 1 can easily be broken down to a half or quarter of a walk.
Percentages of delivery points is a nonsense that doesn’t tell you how many walks are failing in an office.

[SpacePhoenix]

OFCOM should change the guidelines on counting failure. A walk that hasn’t gone out is a whole fail. 1. If an office has 10 walks then it is easy to visualise the impact of 1 fail. 1 can easily be broken down to a half or quarter of a walk.
Percentages of delivery points is a nonsense that doesn’t tell you how many walks are failing in an office.

In a MC any item can only fail once. Priority is given to the newer stuff, is it like that in DOs as well?

[ted_e_bear]

In a MC any item can only fail once. Priority is given to the newer stuff, is it like that in DOs as well?

I'd say no to only failing once according to the criteria

Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)

[Rve83ndxd]

In a MC any item can only fail once. Priority is given to the newer stuff, is it like that in DOs as well?

Absolutely. First day is missed, they are stacked up, until they can find some agency to deliver.

[LouBarlow]

iirc there was something I read on here a while ago that if a duty failed then say for example one row failed then the failure was 25% of the duty as opposed to only the 50 or whatever addresses that actually had items of mail.

So if this has changed or wasn't even the case anyway and they count the amount of addresses with items for delivery as a percentage of the total office addresses then yes that would take a lot longer to reach the 30% figure.

Yes, I recall reading something along those lines. It may be that for reasons of practicality, management will look at a frame and categorise it approximately rather than counting every letter or DP (I know I would, allegedly ).

Still, I think callrates are factored in after that, though it's hard to explain how any office can appear on the list when letters are at current volumes. Maybe the calculation is cumulative for every day rolled over - Week 2 of December, for example: Day 1 45% > Day 2 66% > Day 3 84%... Day 14 100% wall of paper.

It's all a mystery and we can only infer so much because the company isn't going to divulge its methodology. If the union was conducting its own survey of units we could compare and contrast.

OFCOM should change the guidelines on counting failure. A walk that hasn’t gone out is a whole fail. 1. If an office has 10 walks then it is easy to visualise the impact of 1 fail. 1 can easily be broken down to a half or quarter of a walk.
Percentages of delivery points is a nonsense that doesn’t tell you how many walks are failing in an office.

If any item of mail that has had someone pay to have it delivered not get there as sold then it should be a fail. I’ve seen people fired for bringing back letters yet here we are working out how many letters undelivered is ok.

[POSTMAN]

We're sorry for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. We will regularly update customers on the offices most impacted here:

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Ashington DO (NE22, NE62, NE63, NE64)
Banbridge DO (BT32)
Beverley DO (HU11, HU17, HU18)
Bridge Of Weir DO (PA11, PA13)
Carterton DO (OX18)
Daventry DO (NN11)
Eastwood DO (NG16)
Leicester East DO (LE2, LE5-LE7)
Lisburn DO (BT26-BT28)
Lochgelly DO (KY5)
Nantwich DO (CW5)
Pontefract DO (WF7, WF8, WF9, WF11)
Sleaford DO (NG34)

Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)


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USO Trial offices
Antrim, Arlington, Ayr, Ballymena, Blackwood, Brinklow, Bulwell, Cardiff, Carlton, Cheltenham, Clifton, Coventry North, Cumbernauld, Fleetwood, Girvan Hadleigh, Hexham, Hull Malmo Road, Louth, Lytham St Annes, Melton Mowbray, Mount Pleasant W, Newton Mearns, North Finchley, Nottingham North, Preston South, Romsey, Salisbury, Scunthorpe, Southend On Sea, Stockton On Tees, Stoke Newington, Tenterden, Tonbridge, Trowbridge, Usk, Winchester.

[POSTMAN]

We're sorry for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. We will regularly update customers on the offices most impacted here:

20

Aldershot DO (GU11, GU12)
Ashington DO (NE22, NE62, NE63, NE64)
Beverley DO (HU11, HU17, HU18)
Bridge Of Weir DO (PA11, PA13)
Carterton DO (OX18)
Daventry DO (NN11)
Eastwood DO (NG16)
Nantwich DO (CW5)
Pontefract DO (WF7, WF8, WF9, WF11)
Sleaford DO (NG34)

Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)


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USO Trial offices
Antrim, Arlington, Ayr, Ballymena, Blackwood, Brinklow, Bulwell, Cardiff, Carlton, Cheltenham, Clifton, Coventry North, Cumbernauld, Fleetwood, Girvan Hadleigh, Hexham, Hull Malmo Road, Louth, Lytham St Annes, Melton Mowbray, Mount Pleasant W, Newton Mearns, North Finchley, Nottingham North, Preston South, Romsey, Salisbury, Scunthorpe, Southend On Sea, Stockton On Tees, Stoke Newington, Tenterden, Tonbridge, Trowbridge, Usk, Winchester.

[scotchy1962]

It's a miracle, the ever shrinking offices of shame wall is pretty soon going to be clear, not sure how having talked to one of my former workmates and the s**t-show he described, but sure as long as everybody believes what they say and they can go to parliament and point to the numbers.

[POSTMAN]

We're sorry for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. We will regularly update customers on the offices most impacted here:

17

Aldershot DO (GU11, GU12)
Carterton DO (OX18)
Eastwood DO (NG16)
Glasgow G15 DO (G15)
Johnstone DO (PA5, PA6, PA9, PA10, PA12)
Pontefract DO (WF7, WF8, WF9, WF11)
Sutton DO (SM1, SM2, SM3)

Units that report three consecutive days of 30% of DPs failing USO gets you on the list and public RM service disruption website. Then you need three consecutive days below 30% to get off the list (well below and back to stable USO)


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USO Trial offices
Antrim, Arlington, Ayr, Ballymena, Blackwood, Brinklow, Bulwell, Cardiff, Carlton, Cheltenham, Clifton, Coventry North, Cumbernauld, Fleetwood, Girvan Hadleigh, Hexham, Hull Malmo Road, Louth, Lytham St Annes, Melton Mowbray, Mount Pleasant W, Newton Mearns, North Finchley, Nottingham North, Preston South, Romsey, Salisbury, Scunthorpe, Southend On Sea, Stockton On Tees, Stoke Newington, Tenterden, Tonbridge, Trowbridge, Usk, Winchester.

[ted_e_bear]

It's the incredible shrinking list, before long it'll be just that pesky Wakefield office