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Spedley
- Posts: 1209
- Joined: 16 Jul 2007, 17:32
- Location: Warwickshire
I'm a floater on 30hours whcih can be quite awkward because of teh five jobs i do, 3 are 30 hours, 1 is 33 hours and 1 is 28 hours. The person who does the 28 hour job is on 30 hours andthe person doing the 33 hour job is on 35 hours.
My duty is not clean cut and the longest walk takes about 80 minutes longer than the shortest. I claim excess when I finish late and go home early when I finish early - what else do I do, I'm contracted for more hours than the job.
SDD messed the part time jobs up quite a lot because most of them didn't change size and I now have an extra hour of delivery every day. I fought as hard as I could but now we have to do sorting - as far as I'm concerned it is the major difference between part time and full time.
We are waiting for Pegasus, hopefully it will even things out a little because many businesses have moved and there are lots of new developments, 1 residential walk which is not terraced or flats has over 700 drops and they haven't got around to splitting it yet because it is not quite two jobs.
Basically we are in a period of major transition and rather than reorganise the whole office (Admittedly, no easy task) twice they are waiting far too long.
My duty is not clean cut and the longest walk takes about 80 minutes longer than the shortest. I claim excess when I finish late and go home early when I finish early - what else do I do, I'm contracted for more hours than the job.
SDD messed the part time jobs up quite a lot because most of them didn't change size and I now have an extra hour of delivery every day. I fought as hard as I could but now we have to do sorting - as far as I'm concerned it is the major difference between part time and full time.
We are waiting for Pegasus, hopefully it will even things out a little because many businesses have moved and there are lots of new developments, 1 residential walk which is not terraced or flats has over 700 drops and they haven't got around to splitting it yet because it is not quite two jobs.
Basically we are in a period of major transition and rather than reorganise the whole office (Admittedly, no easy task) twice they are waiting far too long.
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bigsharkboy
- Posts: 681
- Joined: 07 Jun 2007, 22:33
- Location: north devon
dont rely on pegasus the results it came up with for our office didnt go any further even our DOM said they were crapSpedley wrote:I'm a floater on 30hours whcih can be quite awkward because of teh five jobs i do, 3 are 30 hours, 1 is 33 hours and 1 is 28 hours. The person who does the 28 hour job is on 30 hours andthe person doing the 33 hour job is on 35 hours.
My duty is not clean cut and the longest walk takes about 80 minutes longer than the shortest. I claim excess when I finish late and go home early when I finish early - what else do I do, I'm contracted for more hours than the job.
SDD messed the part time jobs up quite a lot because most of them didn't change size and I now have an extra hour of delivery every day. I fought as hard as I could but now we have to do sorting - as far as I'm concerned it is the major difference between part time and full time.
We are waiting for Pegasus, hopefully it will even things out a little because many businesses have moved and there are lots of new developments, 1 residential walk which is not terraced or flats has over 700 drops and they haven't got around to splitting it yet because it is not quite two jobs.
Basically we are in a period of major transition and rather than reorganise the whole office (Admittedly, no easy task) twice they are waiting far too long.
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my bite is worse than my bark
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Spedley
- Posts: 1209
- Joined: 16 Jul 2007, 17:32
- Location: Warwickshire
I have my doubs about Pegasus too, however we do have someone spending a lot of time doing it in our office. I am more than familiar with computers and I have quizzed him on the subject many times and I can assure you it does have the potential to give excellent results.
He has done some small scale tests on individual estates whcih have complete data and while not perfect the ideas that Pegasus can come up with are very valuable. For exmaple it did merege 3 walks into 2. In theory that sounds ridiculous and it was ridiculous because there is a major road down the middle which cannot be crossed (it was missed off) but if the road wasn't so dangerous it could have been done. The other 3 walks weren't short but there was a lot of travel due to the major road so that time could have been spent delivering.
That is actually quite a good example because it shows that a slight error in the data given to Pegasus produces unworkable results but it also show that it can give accurate and useful results from the data it has.
He has done some small scale tests on individual estates whcih have complete data and while not perfect the ideas that Pegasus can come up with are very valuable. For exmaple it did merege 3 walks into 2. In theory that sounds ridiculous and it was ridiculous because there is a major road down the middle which cannot be crossed (it was missed off) but if the road wasn't so dangerous it could have been done. The other 3 walks weren't short but there was a lot of travel due to the major road so that time could have been spent delivering.
That is actually quite a good example because it shows that a slight error in the data given to Pegasus produces unworkable results but it also show that it can give accurate and useful results from the data it has.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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- Posts: 72618
- Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
- Gender: Male
- Location: On my couch
We have had Pegasus (or Gio-route as it is now called) and its ok for High density front door access council estates. But if fails big time in areas of low density and rear access properties. It will also as Spedley says route you crossing multiple times over large and busy A roads. It also does not take geography into account. One walk was routed to start with a 16kg bag at the bottom of a 33% (1in 3) hill. 
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mdtomuk
- Posts: 315
- Joined: 14 May 2007, 19:02
- Location: BH (Bournemouth/Poole)
PEGASUS - HUSH HUSH!
SEEMS TO HAVE GONE QUIET IN OUR OFFICE - I THINK IT SHOWED (PROVED TO ALL, EXCEPT JUST US POSTIES!) THAT THE WALKS WERE TOO LONG!!!

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jmlr1971
- Posts: 87
- Joined: 18 Jun 2007, 21:31
- Location: scotland
pegasus
6.2km per hour walk speed carrying 16 kgs with full waterproofs on, uphill in the p1ssing rain and howling wind dont think so
bring in a treadmill to your wtl session and get your f8t lazy 4rsed manager onto it with waterproofs and 16kg pouch and see how he does after 30 minutes
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rhino49
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 1644
- Joined: 04 Jun 2007, 21:50
- Gender: Male
- Location: At home with my feet up
Re: pegasus
What an excellent idea but can we be fair and add the snapping mongrel hound that speeds you up by several kilometres a second or the icy bits or dogshit that sneak under your foot just when you are walking confidently.jmlr1971 wrote:6.2km per hour walk speed carrying 16 kgs with full waterproofs on, uphill in the p1ssing rain and howling wind dont think sobring in a treadmill to your wtl session and get your f8t lazy 4rsed manager onto it with waterproofs and 16kg pouch and see how he does after 30 minutes
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jmlr1971
- Posts: 87
- Joined: 18 Jun 2007, 21:31
- Location: scotland
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bertie
- Posts: 77
- Joined: 10 Aug 2007, 21:55
Does it account for gates that have strange locking mechanisms, dodgy hinges, tied with string, bolts covered in oil, fall off their hinges, give you splinters, have just been freshly painted (how do you open ?), swing back in the wind and hit you, have a faulty catch so someone has ' modified ' it with rope/knicker elastic/shoestring, you have to lift and drag across the floor, that have a sound of a dog behind them but you can't see over, have oh so lovely decorative spikes on the top that are just begging you to slip, are enormous great metal things (always on a slope) which slam and the customer says ' don't slam my gate ' ?
ps I HATE GATES !
ps I HATE GATES !
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DGP1
- Posts: 15551
- Joined: 07 Jun 2007, 20:39
- Gender: Male
- Location: Terminus
bertie wrote:Does it account for gates that have strange locking mechanisms, dodgy hinges, tied with string, bolts covered in oil, fall off their hinges, give you splinters, have just been freshly painted (how do you open ?), swing back in the wind and hit you, have a faulty catch so someone has ' modified ' it with rope/knicker elastic/shoestring, you have to lift and drag across the floor, that have a sound of a dog behind them but you can't see over, have oh so lovely decorative spikes on the top that are just begging you to slip, are enormous great metal things (always on a slope) which slam and the customer says ' don't slam my gate ' ?
ps I HATE GATES !
I love breaking gates, especially those that the people say close my gate, don't slam my gate etc.




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VIPER
- Posts: 3
- Joined: 17 Aug 2007, 19:06
- Location: SOUTH EAST LONDON
WHATS WORKTIME LEARNING
WHAT IS WORK TIME LEARNING ? AS AN OFFICE WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE FOR YEARS OUR MANAGER WONT DO CONFRONTATION SO WE DONT HAVE THEM, HE THINKS WE DONT LIKE HIM, THATS NOT TRUE WE ALL LAUGH AT HIM, ONLY SMILES WHEN HE HAS TRAPPED WIND OR LOOKS IN THE MIRROR. BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND HIM ON THE COMPUTER CHECKING EBAY OR HOLIDAY FLIGHTS. I BELIEVE THAT IF WE HAD A LEARNING SESSION
HE WOULD NOT COME
HE WOULD NOT COME
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VIPER
- Posts: 3
- Joined: 17 Aug 2007, 19:06
- Location: SOUTH EAST LONDON
CASUALS AGAIN
FOUND OUT YESTERDAY SAT, THAT OUR MANAGER IS PAYING CASUALS THE FULL DUTY, 8 HOURS, WHEN OUR OWN PEOPLE GET 6 HOURS TO COVER THEIR REST DAYS AND OVERTIME, HOW IS THIS SAVING MONEY ?
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johnnyp
- Posts: 5239
- Joined: 27 Jan 2007, 16:00
- Gender: Male
- Location: SE ENGLAND
Re: CASUALS AGAIN
What a piss takeVIPER wrote:FOUND OUT YESTERDAY SAT, THAT OUR MANAGER IS PAYING CASUALS THE FULL DUTY, 8 HOURS, WHEN OUR OWN PEOPLE GET 6 HOURS TO COVER THEIR REST DAYS AND OVERTIME, HOW IS THIS SAVING MONEY ?
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jalor_uk
- Posts: 19
- Joined: 09 Sep 2007, 20:25
Today as an example
5.00 start prep
5.30 sorting
6.20 more prep
6.50 sorting
7.45 back to prep
8.00 missorts turn up
8.20 one of a handful who still have their breaks
9.00 back to bundling up
9.45 start delivery
12.45 collected by van
3hrs to do a 3hr 45 min walk up hills and steps
They make me stream the mail which is pulling out mailsort and 2nd class if that is all i have for the house. That was called willfull delay a few months ago. Then on top of that i had to cut off. Back to the office to be treated like leper. 15 years of service and reduced to this. Anyonewho does my delivery says it it to big and should be tested which they can not do until november.
5.00 start prep
5.30 sorting
6.20 more prep
6.50 sorting
7.45 back to prep
8.00 missorts turn up
8.20 one of a handful who still have their breaks
9.00 back to bundling up
9.45 start delivery
12.45 collected by van
3hrs to do a 3hr 45 min walk up hills and steps
They make me stream the mail which is pulling out mailsort and 2nd class if that is all i have for the house. That was called willfull delay a few months ago. Then on top of that i had to cut off. Back to the office to be treated like leper. 15 years of service and reduced to this. Anyonewho does my delivery says it it to big and should be tested which they can not do until november.