Overtime ban incoming, allegedly

[mr_bigglesworth]

The Business issue of "delivering the post for a loop/street that only has 15 letters is losing us money and isn't a great use of time" makes sense

but when that becomes "a street of 15 Letters, 3 first class and 2 parcels, so just take the first class and parcels", which takes only a bit less time than doing the whole thing you are right back where you started.

I have to assume the next step of the master plan is to either scrap 1st class, or more likely price it so high that very few people do it/ merge it into tracked 24.

The number of times I will be on a street with an evri driver, and by the time they stop/start and park their way up the road, I have often delivered a full street, including parcels and letters, the Royal Mail system does seem pretty efficient, but ONLY when there is decent volume to cover the wages, plus parcels that are a carryable size.

I don't know what USO plans are next, but if they can't solve this issue nothing is going to work

[Barnacle]

The Business issue of "delivering the post for a loop/street that only has 15 letters is losing us money and isn't a great use of time" makes sense

but when that becomes "a street of 15 Letters, 3 first class and 2 parcels, so just take the first class and parcels", which takes only a bit less time than doing the whole thing you are right back where you started.

I have to assume the next step of the master plan is to either scrap 1st class, or more likely price it so high that very few people do it/ merge it into tracked 24.

The number of times I will be on a street with an evri driver, and by the time they stop/start and park their way up the road, I have often delivered a full street, including parcels and letters, the Royal Mail system does seem pretty efficient, but ONLY when there is decent volume to cover the wages, plus parcels that are a carryable size.

I don't know what USO plans are next, but if they can't solve this issue nothing is going to work

Every time a Tracked item is delivered separately from the mail, the profit margin is reduced.

RM made a mistake with DPR. What they should have done is expanded Parcel Force, sent all the items over shoe box size to them, and then mail and anything else Tracked like cards, would continue to be delivered by posties.

[goldy2007]

The Business issue of "delivering the post for a loop/street that only has 15 letters is losing us money and isn't a great use of time" makes sense

but when that becomes "a street of 15 Letters, 3 first class and 2 parcels, so just take the first class and parcels", which takes only a bit less time than doing the whole thing you are right back where you started.

I have to assume the next step of the master plan is to either scrap 1st class, or more likely price it so high that very few people do it/ merge it into tracked 24.

The number of times I will be on a street with an evri driver, and by the time they stop/start and park their way up the road, I have often delivered a full street, including parcels and letters, the Royal Mail system does seem pretty efficient, but ONLY when there is decent volume to cover the wages, plus parcels that are a carryable size.

I don't know what USO plans are next, but if they can't solve this issue nothing is going to work

Royal Mail is setup as a service not a profit making business

When I started everything went out every day all absences covered cost didn’t matter

All that counted was a clear office


This is the conundrum RM finds its self with

[claretandblue]

The Business issue of "delivering the post for a loop/street that only has 15 letters is losing us money and isn't a great use of time" makes sense

but when that becomes "a street of 15 Letters, 3 first class and 2 parcels, so just take the first class and parcels", which takes only a bit less time than doing the whole thing you are right back where you started.

I have to assume the next step of the master plan is to either scrap 1st class, or more likely price it so high that very few people do it/ merge it into tracked 24.

The number of times I will be on a street with an evri driver, and by the time they stop/start and park their way up the road, I have often delivered a full street, including parcels and letters, the Royal Mail system does seem pretty efficient, but ONLY when there is decent volume to cover the wages, plus parcels that are a carryable size.

I don't know what USO plans are next, but if they can't solve this issue nothing is going to work

Every time a Tracked item is delivered separately from the mail, the profit margin is reduced.

RM made a mistake with DPR. What they should have done is expanded Parcel Force, sent all the items over shoe box size to them, and then mail and anything else Tracked like cards, would continue to be delivered by posties.

This, or 3 in a van, 2 delivering mail and small parcels, and a driver dropping off bags and doing the oversized and collections.

[Barnacle]

The Business issue of "delivering the post for a loop/street that only has 15 letters is losing us money and isn't a great use of time" makes sense

but when that becomes "a street of 15 Letters, 3 first class and 2 parcels, so just take the first class and parcels", which takes only a bit less time than doing the whole thing you are right back where you started.

I have to assume the next step of the master plan is to either scrap 1st class, or more likely price it so high that very few people do it/ merge it into tracked 24.

The number of times I will be on a street with an evri driver, and by the time they stop/start and park their way up the road, I have often delivered a full street, including parcels and letters, the Royal Mail system does seem pretty efficient, but ONLY when there is decent volume to cover the wages, plus parcels that are a carryable size.

I don't know what USO plans are next, but if they can't solve this issue nothing is going to work

Every time a Tracked item is delivered separately from the mail, the profit margin is reduced.

RM made a mistake with DPR. What they should have done is expanded Parcel Force, sent all the items over shoe box size to them, and then mail and anything else Tracked like cards, would continue to be delivered by posties.

This, or 3 in a van, 2 delivering mail and small parcels, and a driver dropping off bags and doing the oversized and collections.

That would work too. Any scenario that stops the drive to hive all parcels away from mail works.

[funkflex55]

A few stayed out to complete unpaid but that’s not for me.

Minimum wage workers working for free to benefit a billionaire. There’s no words for it really apart from absolutely tragic.

RM can now see who's doing the free work because the clocking system shows the extra bits people have done and I'm pretty sure it's a different colour whether it's paid or not. They only pay the overtime if you write it down. People need to realise that all this free work is partly the cause of the ridiculous size deliveries and they'll keep getting bigger of people continue to complete them for free. I put in a fair days effort for my pay but I'm not starting a minute early and if I work over I'll book it. No matter how small the time.

Stop working for free!

[JOsid]

Some absolute whoppers about doing this job imho,been here less than 2 year's and absolutey blows my mind when i get to the frame 5 mins before start time and the next 1 along has all sequence in and started scanning packets even though it's same start time as mine (30 odd year postie) All you posties that do/have done that have made the job even harder for the rest of us

[Barnacle]

Some absolute whoppers about doing this job imho,been here less than 2 year's and absolutey blows my mind when i get to the frame 5 mins before start time and the next 1 along has all sequence in and started scanning packets even though it's same start time as mine (30 odd year postie) All you posties that do/have done that have made the job even harder for the rest of us

Drives me nuts.

[Mr Rush]

[...] What they should have done is expanded Parcel Force, sent all the items over shoe box size to them, and then mail and anything else Tracked like cards, would continue to be delivered by posties.

This, or 3 in a van, 2 delivering mail and small parcels, and a driver dropping off bags and doing the oversized and collections.

Pretty sure those big Sprinter vans ParcelForce use have two passenger seats that are empty everyday

[Barnacle]

[...] What they should have done is expanded Parcel Force, sent all the items over shoe box size to them, and then mail and anything else Tracked like cards, would continue to be delivered by posties.

This, or 3 in a van, 2 delivering mail and small parcels, and a driver dropping off bags and doing the oversized and collections.

Pretty sure those big Sprinter vans ParcelForce use have two passenger seats that are empty everyday

Find it baffling that the resources at ParcelForce are underutilised.

[Sean06]

Some absolute whoppers about doing this job imho,been here less than 2 year's and absolutey blows my mind when i get to the frame 5 mins before start time and the next 1 along has all sequence in and started scanning packets even though it's same start time as mine (30 odd year postie) All you posties that do/have done that have made the job even harder for the rest of us

Most probably still used to job an knock..but more likely are instituinallised ( no idea how to spell it lol).

[twoloops]

Some absolute whoppers about doing this job imho,been here less than 2 year's and absolutey blows my mind when i get to the frame 5 mins before start time and the next 1 along has all sequence in and started scanning packets even though it's same start time as mine (30 odd year postie) All you posties that do/have done that have made the job even harder for the rest of us

Same in our office, no break, out for 9 o'clock, all next weeks D2D's on Friday & Saturday, the old time posties have truly f'kd this job up, could be low intelligence

[Hitcher]

And they nearly start crying when they get lapsing.

[ted_e_bear]

And they nearly start crying when they get lapsing.

That's nothing compared to when some are back early and get asked to go back out with a loop or some parcels

[thefox]

Some absolute whoppers about doing this job imho,been here less than 2 year's and absolutey blows my mind when i get to the frame 5 mins before start time and the next 1 along has all sequence in and started scanning packets even though it's same start time as mine (30 odd year postie) All you posties that do/have done that have made the job even harder for the rest of us

Been happening for decades it won't ever change,managers love these type of people.