Door to Door update

[norfolk n chance]

had my SI meeting today with our DIM,
he showed me figures i was not happy with ...for one lot of D2D 4 minutes prep
and no extra delivery

i called another local rep who had had the same information, apparently agreed by the union
i was straight on to area i'm awaiting more info

[gb93]

Was this based on 83 items (16.66% of 500) which seems to be figures been used.

If so 20 items per min (ok just under) doesn't sound to bad for 1 lot.

Problem will be if they just times it by 6 for 6 lots or even worse go by withdrawn documents line of thinking and say you get quicker prepping 6, therefore you don't need 6*4mins = 24 or even a little longer to do 6 but rather by some miracle you can do it in 14 mins

[pop it in pete]

Lifted from the agreement "Door to Door will become a 52 weeks a year product. Whilst the planned workload will be spread across the 6 days, delivery employees will have the ability to manage the delivery of the items themselves on the proviso that all items are delivered within the week and the delivery specification is not affected." Where in this agreement does it say that we have to only stick to the 1/6th or 20% senario!!! Increase your call rate to 100% and greatly increase your indoor work load each day. Then shove the agreement right down your DOMS throat.

[norfolk n chance]

didn't give me figures what it was based on,

i thought be OK if just small letter sized however if they are A4 and need to be folded
also he emphasized that no extra time needed on delivery

[fishtank]

Was this based on 83 items (16.66% of 500) which seems to be figures been used.

If so 20 items per min (ok just under) doesn't sound to bad for 1 lot.

Problem will be if they just times it by 6 for 6 lots or even worse go by withdrawn documents line of thinking and say you get quicker prepping 6, therefore you don't need 6*4mins = 24 or even a little longer to do 6 but rather by some miracle you can do it in 14 mins

It sounds ok until you start trying to stuff specsaver A4 leaflets into a fully prepped double slotted frame.

[gb93]

I think 100% call rate due to d2d is very unlikely to be agreed and can't envisage much enthusiasm from div or area reps to push for or support people who wish to go that way but you never know

[fishtank]

I think 100% call rate due to d2d is very unlikely to be agreed and can't envisage much enthusiasm from div or area reps to push for or support people who wish to go that way but you never know

It's a non-starter.
Royal Mail want flexibility in the duty spans for summer lapsing and absorbtion.
You don't get that with a flat 100% call rate.

[gb93]

Agreed fishtank 100%

Was just trying not to dash all the deluded ones hopes

[clashcityrocker]

Lifted from the agreement "Door to Door will become a 52 weeks a year product. Whilst the planned workload will be spread across the 6 days, delivery employees will have the ability to manage the delivery of the items themselves on the proviso that all items are delivered within the week and the delivery specification is not affected." Where in this agreement does it say that we have to only stick to the 1/6th or 20% senario!!! Increase your call rate to 100% and greatly increase your indoor work load each day. Then shove the agreement right down your DOMS throat.

I don't understand why you think this greatly increases your indoor workload each day.
You could do all your D2D on Monday and increase your indoor workload but then the DOM would shove the agreement down your throat for the rest of the week.

[motherhubbard]

Cloud cuckoo land this ! Have any of them ever done a round ???

Our DOM was counting letters this week and when everyone was prepped and bagged up at 8:15 , he said this couldnt go on ! All t`other local offices were allowed out at 8:15ish, I was allowed out at 8:50 due to FF , the rest he made stay till 9:40 twiddling their thumbs! Oh the rep was allowed to take his lapsing ,and his packets and his specials

Either you all sort at twice the standard or you are grossly overstaffed.

[Big Daz]

Overstaffed on indoor work maybe, but that may not be the case for outdoor work based on 3.5 hour span

Its possible to have deliveries ok for the 3.5 hour span but put them all on IPS and you have more bods than you need, thats what happens at my D.O

[fishtank]

Overstaffed on indoor work maybe, but that may not be the case for outdoor work based on 3.5 hour span

Its possible to have deliveries ok for the 3.5 hour span but put them all on IPS and you have more bods than you need, thats what happens at my D.O

Enter the Part-timers vs longer delivery span argument.

[clashcityrocker]

Overstaffed on indoor work maybe, but that may not be the case for outdoor work based on 3.5 hour span

Its possible to have deliveries ok for the 3.5 hour span but put them all on IPS and you have more bods than you need, thats what happens at my D.O

That's why we lapse.

[Spartacus]

Day specific D2Ds are going to attract a payment apparently.

[gb93]

Lets await conformation of that Spartacus (any guesses when and by whom that will come).