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https://www.unitetheunion.org/campaigns ... r-service/

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Dedicated managers – the hidden heroes of our postal service – are being sacked while the boardroom helps itself to massive profits and drops investment, a pattern followed since the service was privatised in 2014.

Unite’s post managers – part of Unite’s Communications Managers’ Association (CMA) group – are the heart of our postal service. Without them, the public will not get the service that they pay for and rely on.

Royal Mail claims this is down to staff shortages – but they are causing the shortages and are running postal managers ragged with excessive working hours without pay, and even trying to hound managers out of their jobs.

The universal service obligation – the law which states that Royal Mail must provide the same service, whether a letter or package is being posted to the next town or to the other end of the country, at the same price six days a week – is under threat by these job cuts.

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Funny, the floater dom we get has put in for VR and says he wont get it as 1400 have applied to go.
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2yearpostie wrote:
18 Mar 2022, 12:46
Funny, the floater dom we get has put in for VR and says he wont get it as 1400 have applied to go.
All four of our managers have put in for it. Don’t blame them one bit this company and the job has gone to complete s**t. Smiley narcissist simple Simon can put all the propaganda on workplace he wants but the reality of working in a delivery office under the constant pressure is very very different.
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Unite’s post managers – part of Unite’s Communications Managers’ Association (CMA) group – are the heart of our postal service. Without them, the public will not get the service that they pay for and rely on.

Are these managers different to the half wits that try and run our office?
If they are the heart of our postal service someone better go and get a defibrillator.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
18 Mar 2022, 14:15
Unite’s post managers – part of Unite’s Communications Managers’ Association (CMA) group – are the heart of our postal service. Without them, the public will not get the service that they pay for and rely on.

Are these managers different to the half wits that try and run our office?
If they are the heart of our postal service someone better go and get a defibrillator.


Our manager said to me, the office wouldn't be able to cope without them. I think we'd do alright personally
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We've had it before where our manager got a flat on the way to work and didn't make it in till later, the world didn't end, and everything was delivered.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
18 Mar 2022, 14:15
If they are the heart of our postal service someone better go and get a defibrillator.
You have to wonder what we're relegated to, then. The legs of the company? The back? The arse?
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The assessments have started.
What happens if they fail the assessment?
Is it correct that an external company is conducting the assessments?
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Screws are taking over Workplace Q&A to our new COO Grant McPherson...

CMA Rep 1
What is your view on the latest Unite CMA ballot result and do you recognise the strength of feeling within the managerial community that they are not happy with the way Royal Mail senior leadership are treating it's managers.

Lino 1
why would you join a business that is in the midst of an unagreed cost saving redundancy exercise, which some 8 weeks after the announcement still has no idea what it's frontline managerial structure will look like moving forward ?

Lino2
Has there been any thought to how the senior stakeholders will repair relationships with its front line management team? Trust has been the main topic at local DO level and gaining trust on the doorstep is what the business is trying to achieve. Can you explain how you aim to achieve this with 0 trust from your management teams at DO level?

DOM
As the opg role has changed so dramatically should we expect an assessment exercise to determine which of the existing staff are capable of continuing to fulfill this role? :shock:

CMA rep2
Please can you explain how teams will be smaller if the number of frontline OPG’s stay the same, and the number of managers is reduced by approximately 700 roles?

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I love the DOM that's trying to drag his OPGs down with him. :no no

Businesses always need workers ..... perhaps the reason they're targetting Management is because they don't think they're doing enough work? :hmmmm

As for Trust .... well now you know how the pondlife feel. :cuppa
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Dorset Plodder wrote:
21 Mar 2022, 15:53
I love the DOM that's trying to drag his OPGs down with him. :no no

Businesses always need workers ..... perhaps the reason they're targetting Management is because they don't think they're doing enough work? :hmmmm

As for Trust .... well now you know how the pondlife feel. :cuppa

If all managers go the job will still get done, if all OPGs go it wouldn’t. We all know who has the most important job role 😂
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Unite doing the best for their members, it's what you would expect from a union. However, I'm afraid if they do go they won't be missed. 90 per cent of the managers I have had dealings with are self-interested bullies.
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DOM

We are in the midst of massive upheaval as we ready the business for the future. We absolutely must change if we are to survive and we must do it at pace if we are to thrive. Of course, none of us are completely comfortable with how it is being done but then no change is ever painless.
I see heightened stress levels amongst my colleagues and, without doubt, seriously elevated anxiety.
Managers are usually the brunt of all things negative and I would be remiss if I did not highlight the remarkable resilience we have shown over the past 2 difficult years and the continuing loyalty and pride that the Company continues to benefit from.
All that said (and I’m sure there is plenty more opinions that could be shared) above all else we will come through this stronger than ever if we support each other, and treat each other in one specific way.
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and I would be remiss if I did not highlight the remarkable resilience we have shown over the past 2 difficult years and the continuing loyalty and pride that the Company continues to benefit from.

It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low life ***** they have always been.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Message from
Ricky McAulay
Delivering for the future
Update on COM Structure and Team Size
24 March 2022

Dear Simon
Since we first announced the Delivering for the Future proposal, we've said we are on a journey to create
smaller, more engaged teams without layers of management and where each team manager is accountable.

The 'smaller is better' principle is based on an overall restructuring of how our frontline teams should be
managed and how decisions should be made at a local level.

Currently we have hundreds of delivery managers with no real line responsibility for posties and hundreds of
others who have no scorecard accountability.


The extra layers and lack of measurability doesn't help us in our
efforts to equalise performance and build customer and colleague trust.

We know that in places where we have one manager who is consistently responsible for one team, we can
perform better.

Understandably, there have been a lot of questions about how we can have smaller teams with a reduction in
managers. It is important to recognise that a lot of the role reduction has come from the cover manager structure
and therefore does not impact frontline ratios.

At the moment we have an average ratio of one Delivery Line Manager to 38 people who they manage on a daily
basis. In the new structure we will have an overall average of one Customer Operations Manager to 32 people
each day.

The size of each team can and will vary and also needs to take into account naturally occurring
postcode clusters.

Some will have less, some will have more but if you look at the whole picture, 85% of our delivery COMs will
manage a daily team of between 20-40, with the maximum being 44.

We have looked at trying to reduce the ratios for the outlying teams in order to make it more even - the ones of
more than 40 and the ones of less than 20. However, managing split postcode areas becomes a far more
complex exercise than managing a slightly larger or smaller than average team. But the journey to reduce the
outliers will continue.

Overall, there will be significantly more delivery managers with direct team and scorecard responsibilities rather
than managers who only manage other managers.

This results in 1950 delivery teams across the country, with a reduction in the average ratio between manager
and frontline.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.