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Is Dm26 the same as ODM

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roadrunner bill
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Is Dm26 the same as ODM

Post by roadrunner bill »

Been reading on line...

Google is saying and Facebook groups...

Say Dm26 is the same as ODM....

ODM is 3 bods doing 4 walks...
DM26 is 3 bods doing 4 walks...

If there is difference between the 2 ways of working..
The union needs to explain.....
ODM modal
DM 26 modal...

If there is no difference... o dear...... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

No.matter how its glossed up...

It's still 3 bods... doing 4 walks.... daily... :shock: :shock:

Some offices who are doing dm 26... are out to 5.. to 6 ish at night delivering......
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Re: Is Dm26 the same as ODM

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https://cwue5.org/2026/07/17/update-on- ... 5PhYZRiURg

Here is the latest report on it from the CWU, I've not seen it posted on here yet.

UPDATE ON DM26

It is now just over six weeks since the membership ratified the USO reform agreement. The attached report is designed to give reps and members a full update on the 120 Delivery units that were deployed up to Monday 13th July.

This is without a doubt the biggest-ever change to deliveries, and the full terms and safeguards of our agreement must be applied to every single delivery unit.

The agreement is crystal clear; no units should deploy until they have completed the following processes (details are explained in the report) and have received approval from the Regional Steering Group.

Rapid Base Data Validation
Unit Health Check
Scoping Exercise
Go/No Go Process
Even once a unit has navigated through this process no unit should deploy unless the delivery unit is clear on deployment and each duty is resourced to and the reserve level is fully staffed. Depending on the size of your units, the above is a lengthy process which all units must complete in advance of deployment.

The agreement is designed to allow for local input, recognising that each delivery unit is different and therefore you are best placed to influence what will work in your unit. The agreement clearly allows for bespoke/non-standard solutions to be cleared by the Regional Steering Working Groups, which will ensure that DM26 lands better in the unit and achieves the quality targets.

The agreement has been planned on the basis that your unit will have the full support of all reps – local, area, divisional and national, to ensure that your unit is in the best possible position to deploy DM26, which includes ensuring on deployment that you have a clear office and full resources, including, as a minimum, a one in six reserve level.

We have asked the Divisional Reps to work with their Area Delivery Reps to complete proformas on how delivery units are working under DM26 and how the Regional Steering Groups are working. This information will be used to provide you with further updates.

The reports and data demonstrate that most of the deployed units are working, and delivery point coverage has improved. However, it is very much early days, with only small and medium units deployed thus far.

The feedback from members in some of the units has been good, especially in units that were previously failing every day, with members coming into frames of mail that did not go out.

There are also reports that a minority of the units have not landed well and need to be fixed, including, if necessary, by introducing extra hours, duties or equipment. The most common theme for those not working is they did not follow all the pre deployment checks in full. The agreement also states that there must be a mandatory review, and no surplus employees will be removed unless the unit is achieving all its quality targets.

We can also report that 338 part-timers have either got a permanent or temporary full-time job, and a further 134 have got an increase in contracted hours in the first 85 delivery units deployed (RM systems run 2 weeks behind which is why this is not for the 120 units deployed). There are a further 1,165 Delivery units to deploy, so this will significantly increase with further deployment.

One point of clarification which will be a clear benefit for some units is delivery units that currently start later on one or more days than the current Wednesday start time can, on deployment, start at the Wednesday start time across the week and we are sharing as much information with CWU Divisional Reps to help support this activity. For example, the DDS (Delivery Duty Scheduler) is showing that:

Glasgow Rutherglen starts 15 minutes later on a Monday compared to Wednesday, 45 minutes later on a Tuesday, 15 minutes later on a Friday and 15 minutes later on a Saturday. They will now be able to start earlier on those days, at the same time as Wednesday start times.

Leyland is starting 50 minutes later on Monday and Tuesday than on Wednesday, and 20 minutes later on Friday and 36 minutes later on Saturday. They will now be able to start earlier on those days, commencing at the same time as on Wednesday.

We realise change is always difficult; our commitment is that we will support you through this process. The agreement is designed to ensure that USO change is successfully delivered across all units and fixed if issues arise.

The CWU at all levels are committed to ensuring that your delivery unit is not only in the best position to deploy but also sees the benefits of extra Saturdays or days off, and that your unit is clearing daily.

We will provide further updates on how units are progressing, including which units have completed their review.

Any enquiries relating to the content of this LTB should be referred to the Deputy General Secretary (Postal) department hford@cwu.org.

Yours sincerely,

Martin Walsh

Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

Davie Robertson

Assistant Secretary



https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... -Att-1.pdf


"However, a minority of units are not working for a variety of reasons, ranging from high sick absence to
singleton vans and increased parcel volumes."
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Re: Is Dm26 the same as ODM

Post by ted_e_bear »

I think the difference is under odm the two people paired up did everything each day on the two rotating duties, whilst 'Evie' did parcels+1c etc on the other two rotating duties.

There was talk of swapping round so Evie took turns at everything and the other two took a turn at parcels+1c (obviously assuming they could drive)

That's the difference, this is the polished version of the same turd.
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Re: Is Dm26 the same as ODM

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ted_e_bear wrote:
Yesterday, 17:41
I think the difference is under odm the two people paired up did everything each day on the two rotating duties, whilst 'Evie' did parcels+1c etc on the other two rotating duties.

There was talk of swapping round so Evie took turns at everything and the other two took a turn at parcels+1c (obviously assuming they could drive)

That's the difference, this is the polished version of the same turd.
Like a lot of other offices, many in our place had been doing 'ODM' for years when the staffing levels were low (most of the time). CWU knew it was happening and the end result was the select committee.
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Re: Is Dm26 the same as ODM

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No it's not. ODM - two doing everything everyday, one doing what had to go on two duties, firms/rurals/hct/lone duties unaffected, no support for anyone. DM26 3 doing 4 duties, 1 duty everything, 1 duty what has to go, firms/rurals/hct doing half everything, half what has to go and supporting indoor and outdoor. Regardless its less of us doing more.

ODM failed because the 3 into 4 duties were unachievable. That is for many reasons including the casualisation and efficiency of our jobs both by the industry and by us. Every blue bin used simply drives up the productivity which reduces the hours of the operation.

So is DM26 any different? No its not because the starting point is the base data already recorded from past productivity and efficiency. All the blue bins have driven up the productivity resulting in operational hours that do not reflect the actual hours needed to do the job properly.

DM26 needs a team operating at 100 BSI in every role and in every function. Its design is based on 100 BSI. When that becomes a reality then maybe it will work. Until then DM26 is ODM.
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Re: Is Dm26 the same as ODM

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so I take it 100 bsi means everyone working flat out to make this work :shock: :shock:
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Re: Is Dm26 the same as ODM

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Delbhoy wrote:
Today, 12:15
so I take it 100 bsi means everyone working flat out to make this work :shock: :shock:
Yep!
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Re: Is Dm26 the same as ODM

Post by hans solo »

Think we were 120 bsi before the dm26 wich is actually worse for us than odm
On wed our finish time now stands at 16.50
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Re: Is Dm26 the same as ODM

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The company has gone insane...