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Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

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Would you go on strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Yes, I have a legacy contract.
39
32%
Yes, I have a new contract.
11
9%
No, I have a legacy contract.
71
58%
No, I have a new contract.
2
2%
 
Total votes: 123

jagger
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Gender: Male

Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by jagger »

As the title says, would you go out on strike for equalisation?
I haven’t found anyone on a legacy contract in my office that would.
TopperGas
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Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by TopperGas »

jagger wrote:
Today, 18:47
As the title says, would you go out on strike for equalisation?
I haven’t found anyone on a legacy contract in my office that would.
Why would legacy contract lose pay for new starters who were content to accept the terms when they took the job?
clashcityrocker
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Location: strummerville

Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by clashcityrocker »

TopperGas wrote:
Today, 18:51

Why would legacy contract lose pay for new starters
Because it is the right thing to do.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Perseus
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Joined: 21 Feb 2024, 16:45
Gender: Male

Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by Perseus »

Once in the job, I don't think new entrants are happy with the different terms. It's the biggest reason they leave.
Gingerbread Fred
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Joined: 08 Apr 2021, 12:51
Gender: Male

Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by Gingerbread Fred »

I tried to with a 97% mandate...

Big Dave sold me out

He can fight this one on his own
funkflex55
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Joined: 04 Sep 2022, 22:58
Gender: Male

Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by funkflex55 »

To those voting no. Be aware that it's likely that once the legacy staff are a big minority then that's then the equalisation will happen when they all get pay reduced to match the new contracts. So if we do don't get them up then legacy are likely going down.
Acca Dacca
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Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 17:13
Gender: Male

Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by Acca Dacca »

Legacy and yes

Legacy should remember that it keeps their job safer if there is less incentive for the business to replace experienced legacy workers with cheaper entrants ( even though I’m a non driver so they want shot of me anyway )
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Thommo44
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Joined: 10 Nov 2018, 13:00
Gender: Male

Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by Thommo44 »

Gingerbread Fred wrote:
Today, 19:51
I tried to with a 97% mandate...

Big Dave sold me out

He can fight this one on his own
Hard to disagree

Im legacy and voted yes, but Im not confident it would achieve anything
hero22
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Joined: 21 Mar 2016, 19:48
Gender: Male

Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by hero22 »

Whos contracts would be being equalised ? All i read on here is new staff leaving immediately

And how many of those who have lasted on new terms are in the union ? In my office very few have joined
Gingerbread Fred
Posts: 20
Joined: 08 Apr 2021, 12:51
Gender: Male

Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by Gingerbread Fred »

The CWU is now nothing more than a paper tiger.
Meetings on meetings on meetings on meetings yet absolutely no communication with their membership.
No words, no action

Year on year the T&C's are deminushing and the "Union" are powerless to it
TopperGas
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Joined: 13 Feb 2021, 22:46
Gender: Male

Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by TopperGas »

funkflex55 wrote:
Today, 20:19
To those voting no. Be aware that it's likely that once the legacy staff are a big minority then that's then the equalisation will happen when they all get pay reduced to match the new contracts. So if we do don't get them up then legacy are likely going down.
It'll never happen unless RM buys out our existing contracts, as they they can't just remove our supplements and paid breaks,
Jonathan Alsatian
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Joined: 10 Oct 2024, 21:00
Gender: Male

Re: Would you strike to equalise pay and terms and conditions?

Post by Jonathan Alsatian »

The union need to make any strike to be about BOTH equalisation and "no to ODM" (the ODM is coming soon by executive action regardless of discussions and resistance) in order to persuade the legacy people to strike. Its clear most will only strike for themselves and have no sympathy with new entrant colleagues. Little solidarity amongst comrades these days it seems. Combine the two issues and propose striking over both and then both legacy and new entrants will be more inclined to strike if they see it as a strike for all of us not just new entrants.

I'm on new contract. Been here 15 months. No plans to leave yet despite the crap wages. I earned a lot more in my previous job but it was a much more depressing place to work than RM and the managers were 10 times worse than RM too. I'm happy at RM now I've got away from doing DPR runs in the dark and finishing at 10pm most nights. I'm still hopeful of equalisation even though its looking less and less likely.