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Any Journalists Trawling this site?/Angard Staffing?

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k3nnyboy
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Any Journalists Trawling this site?/Angard Staffing?

Post by k3nnyboy »

Has anyone noticed that if you look for a job as a postie nowadays that Royal Mail directs you to a company called Angrad Staffing which is now seemingly providing all non-permanent positions in the company i.e. the bulk of jobs going. The rate of pay quoted by Angard is £5.95 per hour.

Now if Royal Mail were going to use an agency for recruiting casual staff you would have thought that they would use an established company but no, here we have a newly formed organisation that seems to be dedicated to providing staff to Royal Mail.

Listed as a director of the company is a John Duncan. Now this coudn't be the same John Duncan that was not long ago recruited to be Royal Mails Human Resources Director. It also has a director called Kathleen Anne Harmeston. Could this be the same Kathleen Anne Harmeston appointed as director of Royal Mail Innovations Ltd only last April.

If so either Royal Mail are bringing in casual staff on the cheap or someone is making a killing at the expense of Royal Mail.

It would be worth someone with some investigative experience to have a check and see what is going on here.

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Some quotes from this forum have found their way into the national press. So its always best to be "undercover" on here :Very Happy
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Royal Mail Group Ltd is a company registered in England and Wales, number
4138203, registered office 100 Victoria Embankment, London, EC4Y 0HQ


ANGARD STAFFING SOLUTIONS LIMITED
100 VICTORIA EMBANKMENT
LONDON
EC4Y 0HQ


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fishtank wrote:Royal Mail Group Ltd is a company registered in England and Wales, number
4138203, registered office 100 Victoria Embankment, London, EC4Y 0HQ


ANGARD STAFFING SOLUTIONS LIMITED
100 VICTORIA EMBANKMENT
LONDON
EC4Y 0HQ


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Like many of us, our leaders have second jobs, ready for when Moya fire at will. I was probably like Crozier and Leighton, big family business, RM. Money going left, right and centre. :nana
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I presume this "Shadow Company" enables RM to recruit new starters without having to comply with our "Normal" Terms & Conditions? If they're only paying £5.95 they're certainly going to be able to cover the running cost! :whistle

So RM does have some Management that have a bit of Business Know How. :hmmmm Pity they waste it ripping off their Employees instead of trying to sort out the Postal Service.! :crazy:

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Not very ethical!

So have Royal Mail started their own Recruitment Consultancy?
What is an agency worker?

As an agency worker you will either have a contract for service or a contract of employment with the agency who finds you work. This work is often called ‘temporary work’, 'temping' or ‘agency work’. The firm who hires you pays a fee to the agency, and the agency pays your wages. The agency has to pay you even if the hiring company has not paid the agency. Agencies cannot charge you for finding work (although there are some exceptions if you are looking for work in the entertainment or modelling industries).

There are several advantages to being an agency worker, you can:

use it as a stepping stone to the job you want
use it as a way of entering or re-entering the job market
use it to work more flexibly to help balance domestic responsibilities
move jobs easily and with little or no notice
try out different kinds of work

Flexibility for both worker and employer is one of the features of agency work. As an agency worker you have the flexibility to take up and leave jobs at short notice. The hiring company also has the flexibility to finish temporary work without being liable for unfair dismissal or redundancy pay. You should check your contract with your agency as it may include a notice period you may be obliged to give.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... G_10027514" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Apparently you can buy a copy of Angard's latest set of accounts for a fiver from these guys: http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/a ... -solutions" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Dirty business / dirty pigs at the top.

Makes me feel fully justified in ghosting 30 hours a week!
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Also listed are :

IRED PARTNERSHIP LIMITED
Other business activities
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

SENDITNOW LIMITED
Non-trading company
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

ROYAL MAIL ESTATES LIMITED
Development & sell real estate, Buying & sell own real estate, Letting of own property
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

ANGARD STAFFING SOLUTIONS LIMITED
Non-trading company
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

ROYAL MAIL INNOVATIONS LIMITED
Non-trading company
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

ROYAL MAIL COURIER SERVICES LTD
Courier other than national post
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

ROYAL MAIL FINANCE LIMITED
Other financial intermediation
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

ROYAL MAIL INVESTMENTS LIMITED
Other financial intermediation
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

ROYAL MAIL HOLDINGS PLC
Other business activities
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

COMMUNITY COURIERS LTD
Dormant Company
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

VIACODE LIMITED
Non-trading company
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

DGMH CLAYTON LIMITED
Non-trading company
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ

CONSIGNIA LIMITED
Non-trading company
LONDON, EC4Y 0HQ
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It's only a £1 from companies house http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/a16fd ... order?ft=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Name & Registered Office:
ANGARD STAFFING SOLUTIONS LIMITED
100 VICTORIA EMBANKMENT
LONDON
EC4Y 0HQ
Company No. 05770579




Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 05/04/2006

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
7499 - Non-trading company
Accounting Reference Date: 31/03
Last Accounts Made Up To: 28/03/2010 (DORMANT)
Next Accounts Due: 31/12/2011
Last Return Made Up To: 05/04/2011
Next Return Due: 03/05/2012
Last Members List: 05/04/2011

Include Allotment of Shares


Type Date Description Order
CH03 09/06/2011 SECRETARY'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / NEIL DAVID OWEN / 26/05/2011

AP02 08/06/2011 CORPORATE DIRECTOR APPOINTED REED SPECIALIST RECRUITMENT LTD :shock:

TM01 31/05/2011 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR ANDREW POOLE

AP01 31/05/2011 DIRECTOR APPOINTED KATHLEEN ANNE HARMESTON

AP01 20/05/2011 DIRECTOR APPOINTED JOHN DUNCAN

AR01 16/05/2011 05/04/11 FULL LIST

LATEST SOC 16/05/2011 16/05/11 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 1

CERTNM 16/05/2011 COMPANY NAME CHANGED ANGARD 2 LIMITED
CERTIFICATE ISSUED ON 16/05/11

RES15 16/05/2011 CHANGE OF NAME 11/05/2011

CONNOT 16/05/2011 NOTICE OF CHANGE OF NAME NM01 - RESOLUTION

CH01 04/10/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / ANDREW PHILIP POOLE / 17/09/2010

AA 25/08/2010 ACCOUNTS OF DORMANT COMPANY MADE UP TO 28/03/10

AR01 23/06/2010 05/04/10 FULL LIST

AA 12/12/2009 ACCOUNTS OF DORMANT COMPANY MADE UP TO 29/03/09

287 07/06/2009 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 07/06/09 FROM:
GISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 07/06/2009 FROM
ROYAL MAIL HOUSE
148 OLD STREET
LONDON
EC1V 9HQ

363a 20/04/2009 RETURN MADE UP TO 05/04/09; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

AA 08/10/2008 ACCOUNTS OF DORMANT COMPANY MADE UP TO 30/03/08

363a 25/04/2008 RETURN MADE UP TO 05/04/08; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

AA 08/01/2008 ACCOUNTS OF DORMANT COMPANY MADE UP TO 31/03/07

363a 26/04/2007 RETURN MADE UP TO 05/04/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

225 05/05/2006 ACC. REF. DATE SHORTENED FROM 30/04/07 TO 31/03/07

288a 03/05/2006 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

288a 03/05/2006 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED

287 19/04/2006 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 19/04/06 FROM:
G OFFICE CHANGED 19/04/06
KEMP HOUSE
152-160 CITY ROAD
LONDON
EC1V 2NX

288b 18/04/2006 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

288b 18/04/2006 SECRETARY RESIGNED

NEWINC 05/04/2006 INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS
CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION
STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE
DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE
MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION
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Contact Panorama :chuckle
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yep, checked out companies house. Angard have one share allocated owned by Royal Mail. So its just a way to get labour on the cheap and outside usual terms and conditions.
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Now...the real question is...why would a company that has publicly declared it's wish to drive the company forward with a 75/25 substantive staffing mix reactivate a dormant shady recruitment company to recruit staff.
Does it see a future casualisation of the industry as an earning opportunity to good to miss?
What does our union have to say about this? :cuppa
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im surprised cwu dont have colleague shares in this
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