1 in 4 sats part 2!

[banner18]

Can management stop the 1 in 4 saturdays, duty options being an option in an office? Heard a rumour that management don't want them because they are harder to manage and cover for etc....

[obscurityknocks]

unbelievable. 1 in 4 saturdays is the only benefit we are probably going to get from delivery methods revision but yet management/planners are trying to scupper this. Need help nationally from the cwu to put a stop to this bullying.

[POSTMAN]

There is no pt 2 Banner.

[worktotime]

Can management stop the 1 in 4 saturdays, duty options being an option in an office? Heard a rumour that management don't want them because they are harder to manage and cover for etc....

yes thats right weve been doing p&l crap for over a year now , i was working the 1 in 4 and it was great loads of long weekends etc and days in lieu and they stopped it as it was harder to cover the duties and the idiot union rep agreeded , so they took a bit off all the 1 in 4 rounds and created another duty , its a another con. good luck.

[madmartin]

This is another example of local agreements undermining national ones. What's the point of having any agreements if they're ignored at local level, if something is agreed at national level than that should be it. As for your union rep who agreed to it get rid of him/her.

[haddie]

some reps are better than orhers. don't forget reps do that job for no extra pay but take any flack that is going if things go wrong. yes the rep should have consulted the members at least but it depends on how well trained they are and if they have anyone furher up the chain to consult. that is what union courses are for and it is up to reps to get themselves trained. we are going through revision just now and members will be consuleted. prob is too many barrack room lawyers

[madmartin]

can't union reps get paid then? Why can't some of our subs go to giving them a bit of extra money. That way if they're not up to the job then they can get voted out and will lose the extra money this would hopefully make the rep's more interested to do a better job and for the good reps then they get a bit of extra money that they deserve. Having said all that the reps are doing the best they can and the people who are to blame for the state we find ourselves in now are the people who voted yes on the 2010 deal. People took the short sighted view of getting a lump sum and now it's biting us all on the a$$.

[arnold cheshire]

some reps are better than orhers. don't forget reps do that job for no extra pay but take any flack that is going if things go wrong. yes the rep should have consulted the members at least but it depends on how well trained they are and if they have anyone furher up the chain to consult. that is what union courses are for and it is up to reps to get themselves trained. we are going through revision just now and members will be consuleted. prob is too many barrack room lawyers

are rep is always booking cwu overtime

[clashcityrocker]

can't union reps get paid then?

I can't speak for all areas but our unit reps get to attend a minimum of 4 meetings/year. They get £25 expenses for each meeting plus a xmas "bonus" of approx. £50.
Most do it for the love and respect of their members and not any financial gain.

[fishtank]

I think it's naive to think that not consulting the members is simply down to a lack of training.
I think it's even more naive to believe that paying reps will do anything other than attract the kind of people we really don't want representing our members.

[arnold cheshire]

some reps are better than orhers. don't forget reps do that job for no extra pay but take any flack that is going if things go wrong. yes the rep should have consulted the members at least but it depends on how well trained they are and if they have anyone furher up the chain to consult. that is what union courses are for and it is up to reps to get themselves trained. we are going through revision just now and members will be consuleted. prob is too many barrack room lawyers

are rep is always booking cwu overtime

he books cwu facility 1hr docket

[BoltonPostie]

can't union reps get paid then?

I can't speak for all areas but our unit reps get to attend a minimum of 4 meetings/year. They get £25 expenses for each meeting plus a xmas "bonus" of approx. £50.
Most do it for the love and respect of their managers and not any financial gain.

Fixed it for ya!

[worktotime]

This is another example of local agreements undermining national ones. What's the point of having any agreements if they're ignored at local level, if something is agreed at national level than that should be it. As for your union rep who agreed to it get rid of him/her.

we havent seen him for about a year now as hes making a mess in other offices and getting paid for it.