Optimum delivery span

[obscurityknocks]

Who decides what the optimum delivery span is? Is it the manager who more often than not has never done a full delivery in his/her life, has never delivered in the most coldest/warmest times of the day 5 days a week? Is it the planner who is usually in a similar scenario to the manager as when they last did a delivery it was 2 and a half hours long? or is it the staff who know how your body starts to feel approaching 4 hours outside delivering? An optimum is described as "The point at which the condition, degree, or amount of something is the most favorable.". This tells me that creating delivery spans that pass the 4 hour mark your are losing "optimum" due to fatigue which can cause lack of concentration and many other things. No way should a manager or a planner be creating delivery spans that they cant achieve themselves over 5 days a week.

[DGP1]

I have no problem doing 5 hours............but then I take a break about 3 hours into my delivery to give me energy to do the rest of it and since I've started that I've been much better, not wanting to crash out when I get home, not getting so tired that I trip over my own feet............yes, really better now

[Mr Rush]

Who decides what the optimum delivery span is?

The chain of command is planner > DOM > Delivery Sector Manager > DSM's budget. Management is so far removed from the ground they might as well be in a plane - at least that would explain why we appear like ants to them.

[Budfrog]

The chain of command is planner > DOM > Delivery Sector Manager > DSM's budget. Management is so far removed from the ground they might as well be in a plane - at least that would explain why we appear like ants to them.

U have left out the National Delivery Design Team from whose 'Designs' everything emanates ... mostly Grads with Degrees in anything from Underwater Basket Weaving to Equine Psychology.

[Judgee]

Forest Gump decides the optimum delivery span I'm sure of it... no one else could come up with the dumbass rounds we get left with!

[hans solo]

but can rm make you walk for five hours without break our linos and rep says i can be made to work for 5hr without break as i have had one early in shift.
their only using this method to blackmail members to take breaks insisting they be taken at 8.40 am for 6am strt during 8hr+ot
shift

[banner18]

rurals have been doing five hours since sdd

[hans solo]

with greatest respect they dont walk for full hrs plus
nowhere near same amount of calls or d2ds
can drive off for toilet etc do not compare the two
they also do not do half the prep or sorting as walking man

[justdeno]

In all the 16+ yrs I've never done less than a 5 hr delivery don't know whats your problem, I am a rural and we are always forgotten by the union, and RM now say our duties are not big enough, so out for longer

[justdeno]

with greatest respect they dont walk for full hrs plus
nowhere near same amount of calls or d2ds
can drive off for toilet etc do not compare the two
they also do not do half the prep or sorting as walking man

I don't know where you are but in my office all rural have to do all ips and absorb prep another duty including d2d we don't all have it easy

[fishtank]

A rural might be a 5hr delivery but it is not 5hrs of delivery.
It is a mix of driving and delivery,much less physically demanding and therefore not subject to the ergonomic maximum delivery spans set by Royal Mail.

[banner18]

I have done all the types of delivery, walk, rural and omv and I can categorically tell you that rurals are by far the hardest. Although they carry little weight you have to lift your own body weight up out of the van 100's of times a day (80-100 kilo lift over and over) and work like a dog just to get finished, never making any time.

[fishtank]

I have done all the types of delivery, walk, rural and omv and I can categorically tell you that rurals are by far the hardest. Although they carry little weight you have to lift your own body weight up out of the van 100's of times a day and work like a dog just to get finished, never making any time.

So have i banner and i've also done park&loop with a 4hr10min delivery and i would say that a rural is nowhere near as physically demanding.
So it just goes to show opinions are just that.

[banner18]

I have done all the types of delivery, walk, rural and omv and I can categorically tell you that rurals are by far the hardest. Although they carry little weight you have to lift your own body weight up out of the van 100's of times a day and work like a dog just to get finished, never making any time.

So have i banner and i've also done park&loop with a 4hr10min delivery and i would say that a rural is nowhere near as physically demanding.
So it just goes to show opinions are just that.

Well I suppose, but for me when I do a week on omv, not that tired, week on a walk, I ache a lot and am quite tired, week on a rural and I am exhausted lol. I would expect park and loop to be similar to a rural because you are walking more overall but getting out of the van less.

[Judgee]

Rural walks in our office are reserved for the chosen few, those touched by the hand of God himself! So sacred that they managed to keep themselves completely out of the office revision and following resign.... if they are that awful why would any one of our rural staff offer you thier first born just to keep thier duties?!