Leaving Royal Mail

[johnr67]

I'm gutted with this new agreement , the longer Saturday's will force me to quit the job because of family commitments .
Thanks must go to the CWU , another postie being forced out the job .

[theblock]

Thats what they want,don't do it,keep battling.

[POSTMAN]

It's a possible 1 hr extra on your 'duty' finishing time.
I emphasise the word duty,because does everyone on here really finish bang on on a Sat?

[jack straw]

The agreement hasn't gone through yet! Get everyone in your office to vote NO. It can't be too hard to convince them, the agreement is that bad.

[royal_mail_slave]

does everyone on here really finish bang on on a Sat?

For the few years,absolutly! There was a time when we took no mailsort on a saturday leaving us with next to nothing to deliver,(remember the union bullshitting us with the "saturdays must be considerably easier" con),only for the mailsort to "fizzle out" and turn into downstream access,of course which we have to deliver,Saturdays are now by far the worst/busiest day of the week,because the amount of mail recieved and the fact we have to do it in a shorter time.

[DirtyHarry]

It's a possible 1 hr extra on your 'duty' finishing time.
I emphasise the word duty,because does everyone on here really finish bang on on a Sat?

I think most of us are working on the assumption, give 'em an inch, and sooner or later, they'll take the whole bloody mile.
Time we, the workers, said, enough is enough.
The thugs running Royal Mail into the ground, are never satisfied, never. We, the workers, must have saved those thugs tens of millions of pounds over the last seven years, and even were we to roll over and allow them to tickle our collective tummies yet again, they'd be back for more off us. Enough is enough, mate.

[drb]

Food for thought here.
Did we work faster on a Saturday because it was a Saturday and shorter?
If the Mailsort 3 had gone down and turned into Downstream Access was the mail volume the same as a Wednesday?
If the answer is yes,do you think they noticed?

Just food for thought here............

[postmanx]

Did we work faster on a Saturday because it was a Saturday and shorter?
If the Mailsort 3 had gone down and turned into Downstream Access was the mail volume the same as a Wednesday?
If the answer is yes,do you think they noticed?
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they do that in our office - they go on like its a quiet day still - they run round like nutters.
wake up - its just a normal day to me!!!

[fishtank]

It's a possible 1 hr extra on your 'duty' finishing time.
I emphasise the word duty,because does everyone on here really finish bang on on a Sat?

It's not a possible 1 hr extra on our D.Os duties it is a definite 2hrs.
Our office has a 1pm finish on a saturday and we more or less finish bang on.
To move ahead on the "presumption" that we may get a flyer is ill advised.
Walk sequencing,New delivery methods,Specific Saturday D2Ds and the fact that less people will be working on a saturday tell a different story.
Royal mail will do everything in it's power to make us work our hours on a Saturday and the union will be powerless to stop them.
If you accept this agreement you accept working up to 3pm on a Saturday.
Not for me thanks.

[singingpostman]

It's a possible 1 hr extra on your 'duty' finishing time.
I emphasise the word duty,because does everyone on here really finish bang on on a Sat?

Well we certainly do, and thats often only achieved by streaming or cutting off, Saturdays are now equal to and possibly busier than Mondays, we work longs and shorts and Sat for us is a short finishing at 12-15. But also we will be starting later so we are told, so later starts + an extra hour or 2 duty time and you are looking at missing kick off at 3 o clock !. In our office this is the biggest bone of contention and the one that will make most people vote no.

[DirtyHarry]

This deal is a complete fiasco. What with 3pm finishes on Saturdays, the complete feckin' mess they've made with the Door 2 Dustbins, a vote for NO to this pish-poor deal is a must.

There are no benefits to be had from this so-called deal if you're in deliveries, absolutely none.

[drb]

I agree about the longer Saturdays,it is a deal breaker to be honest. I never went on strike because of the money.It was the terms and conditions.If we fail to deliver all the door to doors in a round,there is nothing really in 2010 agreement to help us.

There is too much room for them to bully.We should have had an agreement that :

a) Turn part time to full time should they wish

b) SA on Saturdays,(Mon-Fri)

c) shorter PT only walks

d) A defined span,(max of 4 hours split into 2 X 2 hours),Meal relief compulsary in between

e) No cars and maximum weight,(or 3 bundles in a pouch)

f) If there is 40 million to be made from Door To Door,then remainder of the profit put BACK in pension only,(not for operating profit)

g) Part time drivers for evening re-deliveries,(more family friendly employment)

h) Immediate stage 3 for executive action,stages 1 2 & 3 for negotiation with agreement not resolved within 1 month,then stage 3.

i) Abolition of line managers,re-introducing Lead Post Person,(still maintaing DOM and Assistant DOM)

j) Introduction of National,Neautral Appeals Panels for sickness/Conduct cases/Bullying.



I may of missed loads here,such as Network & Collections and Mail centre rationalisation. We have given too much concessions to the business in my opinion.Would it have been too much to ask for at least half,(or all) of the above?

We have been caught in the trap of accounts and balances.Yes the business is up s**t Creek,but until we address the Downstream Access issue and Pension issue,(in which the negotiations should have requested Royal Mail to get a firm commitment from it's share holder to address.

Should the goverment fill the pension hole,I guarantee the next member of the public to buy a stamp puts us in profit.............

[number one]

does everyone on here really finish bang on on a Sat?

For the few years,absolutly! There was a time when we took no mailsort on a saturday leaving us with next to nothing to deliver,(remember the union bullshitting us with the "saturdays must be considerably easier" con),only for the mailsort to "fizzle out" and turn into downstream access,of course which we have to deliver,Saturdays are now by far the worst/busiest day of the week,because the amount of mail recieved and the fact we have to do it in a shorter time.

Yep this was one of the biggest cons of all time!! Also we got put on later start times becuse the new speed restrictions on HGV's meant our mail would arrive later. We now have walk sequencing machines in our office and most of the mail gets to us 11pm the night before!