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Your £300 Lump Sum

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nataddick
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Your £300 Lump Sum

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Just came across this on https://www.myroyalmail.com/news/nation ... -pay-offer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'Our Chief Executive, Moya Greene, has written to all employees in CWU-represented grades, as well as managers, in both Royal Mail and Parcelforce Worldwide.

We have offered a £300 lump sum in year one as part of our proposed agreement. The £300 lump sum (pro-rata for part timers) would be payable in December 2013, as long as there is no industrial action.

Many of you said that it is unfair that people should lose this money if they work normally when others in their office go on strike.

We agree. So, this payment would be made, provided you have not taken action yourself.'

A late attempt to sway the opinion of those who have not yet voted and to appease non union staff ?

POSTMAN EDIT: See original mrm.con link

*This offer (£300)has been made as part of a proposed 3 year agreement with CWU.

The agreement is under discussion (And has been rejected hence the ballot) between us and CWU and is subject to contract (Which has not been signed/agreed)

PLEASE CIRCULATE THIS LETTER TO ALL CWU MEMBERS AND WORKPLACES

Dear Colleague

Royal Mail Propaganda

The latest letter from the Chief Executive of the Royal Mail Group is an act of desperation and discrimination.

The legal and factual position is as follows:

The company cannot discriminate against any employee for supporting their Union in a legally constituted Ballot for Industrial Action.

Neither the Royal Mail Group nor CWU can ever reach an agreement that discriminates financially against any individual.

A final agreement will not be based on the previously rejected pay offer, or the content of the Chief Executive’s divisive letter and beliefs.

A final agreement will deliver an improved pay and reward package that treats everybody equally – along with further company concessions on all the issues involved in this dispute.

The Chief Executive’s position is not sustainable.

Your collective strength will be the decisive factor - vote yes.

Yours Sincerely



Dave Ward
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
POSTMAN EDIT 25/10:

fishtank wrote:No: 718/13
Ref:
Date: 25th October 2013

To: ALL POSTAL BRANCHES



Dear Colleague

NATIONAL DISPUTE – UPDATE

The company accepted our offer for fresh talks and these began on Wednesday 23rd October.

In commencing these talks the company also agreed that the previously rejected offer was off the table (Double confirmation there is no £300)and they confirmed that they would make a new improved offer on the key aspects of the dispute.

At this stage no new offer has been forthcoming.

The Union will serve notice on the 28th October and the current situation is that the 24 hour strike on the 4th November will go ahead. The detailed start and finish times of the 24 hour strike will be published once the formal notice has been served on Monday.

Further information will be published in due course.

Any enquiries should be addressed to the DGS (P) Dept.
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

They have sent a letter to all of us today :coolr

f***ing jokers.

Even if its a yes vote lots of people will go in for the £300

:arrrghhh

What's the union doing they ask
meweavy
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by meweavy »

And since when have they ever paid a lump sum on time?.
Any lump sums we have had in the past our rep has had to fight to get, and always months late.
Just like the shares carrot, this lump sum carrot will not put off anyone who has the sense to see what could happen in the future.
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

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People complained - RM agreed - apparently that's wrong.
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

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mandelsons_toenail wrote:They have sent a letter to all of us today :coolr

f***ing jokers.

Even if its a yes vote lots of people will go in for the £300

:arrrghhh

What's the union doing they ask
From what i can make out from our office,i rekon half the 130ish workforce are going in again anyway. This news will probably push a lot more to break the strike! Not looking forward to manning the picket line (if there's enough people) when the majority of the office will work.
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

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edbling wrote: From what i can make out from our office,i rekon half the 130ish workforce are going in again anyway. This news will probably push a lot more to break the strike! Not looking forward to manning the picket line (if there's enough people) when the majority of the office will work.
This woman Is clever ! I did post on here after so many said they would refuse there shares that I would be surprised if it went above 1% of workforce about 1500 people . They say 100 which does show how people can be turned by cash. I think the union better start thinking about there position very quickly as this is going to weaken them in the short and long term. Remember she is offering over £40,000,000 to employees. Be interesting when they give out their figures on what's paid out or how many go into work.
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Is it legal to bribe people to work during a strike..

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

A question has been asked from one of my members.

After this

We have offered a £300 lump sum in year one as part of our proposed agreement. The £300 lump sum (pro-rata for part timers) would be payable in December 2013, as long as there is no industrial action.

Many of you said that it is unfair that people should lose this money if they work normally when others in their office go on strike.

We agree. So, this payment would be made, provided you have not taken action yourself.'


Is it legal to bribe people to break a strike?

What are the union doing about it?

Me personally, I will ensure that any member who chooses to work and take the £300 will not ever be represented by me ever again, and I hope the CWU has the balls to expel these people. They do not deserve the title "union member"

An utter shambles.

Ooh please don't strike we will give you £300 (before tax, pro rata) if you don't and a breakfast on the Dom.

Pathetic.

Take a long hard look in the mirror if you will cave for a few pieces of gold, only I hope in a few years you realise it's fools gold.

Unity is strength
Last edited by mandelsons_toenail on 03 Oct 2013, 12:11, edited 1 time in total.
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todays rm letter

Post by daveyeff »

just got it (im off today), jesus,,,,they are urging us to vote no, which in my view is an act of desperation. BUT, the astonishing bit on the pay paragraph at the bottom,,,they are litterally asking staff to scab.... ''we offered a lump sum of £300, as long as there is no industrial action''.,,,,, now, its ''we would make this payment provided you have not taken action yourself.!!!! how low are they going to go to get a no vote??. the rest is the usual shyte.
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Re: Is it legal to bribe people to work during a strike...

Post by Lounge Lizard »

mandelsons_toenail wrote:A question has been asked from one of my members.

After this

We have offered a £300 lump sum in year one as part of our proposed agreement. The £300 lump sum (pro-rata for part timers) would be payable in December 2013, as long as there is no industrial action.

Many of you said that it is unfair that people should lose this money if they work normally when others in their office go on strike.

We agree. So, this payment would be made, provided you have not taken action yourself.'


Is it legal to bribe people to break a strike?

What are the union doing about it?

Me personally, I will ensure that any member who chooses to work and take the £300 will not ever be represented by me ever again, and I hope the CWU has the balls to expel these people. They do not deserve the title "union member"

An utter shambles.

Ooh please don't strike we will give you £300 (before tax, pro rata) if you don't and a breakfast on the Dom.

Pathetic.

Take a long hard look in the mirror if you will cave for a few pieces of gold, only I hope in a few years you realise it's fools gold.

Unity is strength
And this was sent in a plain white envelope, not even with a Sheffield or Chesterfield return address, so that we would all open it. :shock:
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Re: todays rm letter

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

See my latest post

"Is it legal to bribe staff to break strike..."
cloherty1976
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Re: todays rm letter

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mandelsons_toenail wrote:See my latest post

"Is it legal to bribe staff to break strike..."
Is it a bribe or is it fact. What are the union going to do to counter attack this? Surely they must have seen this coming but you got to admit you would have thought they would have put this out last week so the yes would have surely been weakened. Have the Royal Mail missed a trick or is clever?
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Re: Is it legal to bribe people to work during a strike..

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

Unfortunately it is perfectly legal, it's an out in the open perfectly clear part of the pay deal that rm are offering, it's just like the other lump sums in previous pay deals, do this or that and get a lump sum, no different unfortunately

I don't agree with it and thinks its a nasty tactic(but a good one from rm perspective) and will be ignoring it myself but unfortunately it is lawful
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Re: todays rm letter

Post by Dozen »

I've lost count of the propaganda letters i've received over the last 4 weeks. Practically one every two days sometimes. At what point does this constitute harassment, surely you can't just continuously send someone the same s**t every other day forever. Plus the cost of printing all this crap in the first place. Somewhere there's a warehouse filled with pallets of printed propaganda from RM waiting to be sent to us. Complete madness. :arrrghhh
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Re: todays rm letter

Post by 123456 »

My big worry is if the union cannot endure the perils of industrial aggro with the good folks that run royal mail now,lord only knows how they will cope when fully privatised.The difference in how the company will be managed will have changed massively.These fools who run RM now will be long gone,replaced by a board of directors that could potentially run ever bigger rings around the C.W.U.
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Re: Is it legal to bribe people to work during a strike..

Post by Lounge Lizard »

zx135 wrote:Unfortunately it is perfectly legal, it's an out in the open perfectly clear part of the pay deal that rm are offering, it's just like the other lump sums in previous pay deals, do this or that and get a lump sum, no different unfortunately

I don't agree with it and thinks its a nasty tactic(but a good one from rm perspective) and will be ignoring it myself but unfortunately it is lawful
Not me, but more than a few will think "that's £372 I'll lose not £72 if I join what is just a one day strike so I'm a 'Still Can Afford Beer'". :sad: