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Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
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La Poste
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
Thanks for the replies much appreciated.
So in order to remove a rep you need a clear list of evidence collected over time.
And someone with the balls to get the ball rolling.
So in order to remove a rep you need a clear list of evidence collected over time.
And someone with the balls to get the ball rolling.
No I'm not being paranoid, they really are out to get me.
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fishtank
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
I understand your point Clash although it's unlikely a vote of no confidence would be called on an individual and obviously controversial point like that but the reality is you can't have a rep in place that the majority of members don't want.
Could any rep seriously continue after a vote of no confidence,even if branch had managed to talk a few round and swung a vote your way.
I couldn't.
I think the biggest mistake some reps make is not getting too close to management but forgetting to communicate with members,i can understand it because sometimes you would be better off talking to the york of D2D in the corner but when members see you disappear into the office for an hour and then you don't communicate what went on they tend to make their own s**t up.
Could any rep seriously continue after a vote of no confidence,even if branch had managed to talk a few round and swung a vote your way.
I couldn't.
I think the biggest mistake some reps make is not getting too close to management but forgetting to communicate with members,i can understand it because sometimes you would be better off talking to the york of D2D in the corner but when members see you disappear into the office for an hour and then you don't communicate what went on they tend to make their own s**t up.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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mr ford
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
they could give them spare ot or annual leave or when sick not put them in the bookfishtank wrote:I thought RM had a policy of keeping managers and their spouses in separate offices.
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fishtank
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
That's what i thought.mr ford wrote:they could give them spare ot or annual leave or when sick not put them in the bookfishtank wrote:I thought RM had a policy of keeping managers and their spouses in separate offices.
It's as much to protect the manager from constant accusations of bias as anything else.
We've had a manager moved for that reason before.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
Of course you couldn't.fishtank wrote:I
Could any rep seriously continue after a vote of no confidence,even if branch had managed to talk a few round and swung a vote your way.
I couldn't.
But different people are motivated by different things.
If you want to be the rep because you get a few hundred quid, get a few days off delivery and can big yourself up to some online skank then the opinion of your members would count for very little.
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fishtank
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
Details.....clashcityrocker wrote:big yourself up to some online skank.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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dvbuk55
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
Only his bellyShoebacca wrote:In my office , our Union Rep is married to a line manager .. Is this allowed ? A lot of staff feel our " Rep " is now unapproachable as they don't feel he can be trusted to not discuss private issues at home . This has also resulted in us becoming a soft office in terms of fighting for the best way forward for everyone . The Line Manager in question has also had a very rapid and unquestioned rise from Postie to Line Manager as our Union rep rolls over and has his belly tickled by management . Please HELP !
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
This is bollocks.dvbuk55 wrote: Only his bellyGet rid of the rep because you as members feel there could be a conflict of interest and an issue of confidentiality.
There is no "potential" conflict of interest. We are talking about a unit rep and a line manager.
What issue of confidentiality? There is probably nothing a unit rep knows that couldn't or shouldn't be shared with management.
Because that is what a unit rep does - talks to managers about staff issues.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
I'd be very uncomfortable if my rep was married to our screw.
I can't see how it would work,not the marriage,the other bits.
I can't see how it would work,not the marriage,the other bits.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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britwrit
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
it's obviously not working in this situation, but I could see how it could. Some married couples I know are all-time champs when it comes to fighting and won't give an inch over anything:
REP: "NO! We're not lapsing a single hour in this office! EVER! And WE'RE NOT GOING TO YOUR BLOODY PARENTS THIS WEEKEND!"
REP: "NO! We're not lapsing a single hour in this office! EVER! And WE'RE NOT GOING TO YOUR BLOODY PARENTS THIS WEEKEND!"
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dvbuk55
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
Oh yes there is plenty a unit rep knows that shouldn't be shared with management and you know that.clashcityrocker wrote:This is bollocks.dvbuk55 wrote: Only his bellyGet rid of the rep because you as members feel there could be a conflict of interest and an issue of confidentiality.
There is no "potential" conflict of interest. We are talking about a unit rep and a line manager.
What issue of confidentiality? There is probably nothing a unit rep knows that couldn't or shouldn't be shared with management.
Because that is what a unit rep does - talks to managers about staff issues.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
Seems it's not uncommon,there's an LTB about it...
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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fishtank
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
POSTMAN wrote:Seems it's not uncommon,there's an LTB about it...
You've too much time on your hands but that's funny.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Pat Ostman
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
Have to agreedvbuk55 wrote:Oh yes there is plenty a unit rep knows that shouldn't be shared with management and you know that.clashcityrocker wrote:This is bollocks.dvbuk55 wrote: Only his bellyGet rid of the rep because you as members feel there could be a conflict of interest and an issue of confidentiality.
There is no "potential" conflict of interest. We are talking about a unit rep and a line manager.
What issue of confidentiality? There is probably nothing a unit rep knows that couldn't or shouldn't be shared with management.
Because that is what a unit rep does - talks to managers about staff issues.
Run, rabbit run. Dig that hole, forget the sun.
And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Union Rep married to Line Manager ... WTF ?
Like what?Pat Ostman wrote:Have to agreedvbuk55 wrote:
Oh yes there is plenty a unit rep knows that shouldn't be shared with management and you know that.
And do you think that information is more likely to be shared during a shared post coital cigarette?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.