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5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 17:48

geordieboy123 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:The update will be on.......Facebook


I’m not on Facebook what’s the link please


here's the CWU News twitter page which includes the live feed (you don't need to be on twitter to see the link).
https://twitter.com/CWUnews?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 18:24

I listen too Terry for a bit,did he say anything about five day week for letters?.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 18:27

I thought I had maybe clicked on last week's episode by mistake, I do that a lot on Netflix.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 18:37

Terry spent a whole hour talking while simultaneously saying absolutely nothing. Tune in next week for the latest non update update.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 18:49

You can just rewind this one for a couple of months or the last one or the one before

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 18:55

What's that Terty ....use the IR framework, is that the one that had 600 issues that the CWU recently scrubbed ?

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 19:13

Seriously though what can the union do apart from talk? How much support would another ballot for strike action get from both members and the public in the current crisis? If we do get a vote for strike action Royal mail will just get another injunction anyway. We have to be patient. RM want members to become frustrated. We must stay calm, be patient and stick together.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 19:27

Seriously though what can the union do apart from talk?


They could be honest with the membership, stop trying to play the big shot and get their own house in order. Improve representation and diversity throughout the branch structure. Start protecting members at office level. Clear out the old boys network and the glorified social clubs. Engage with Royal Mail on a professional level. Ditch the love affair with social media. Start acting like a union.
There's more but I don't want to do a Terry...

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 19:35

Jpro747 wrote:Seriously though what can the union do apart from talk?

Use our collective strength to protect the weakest.
Lift people out of poverty.
Start acting like a union.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 19:38

Jpro747 wrote:Seriously though what can the union do apart from talk? How much support would another ballot for strike action get from both members and the public in the current crisis? If we do get a vote for strike action Royal mail will just get another injunction anyway. We have to be patient. RM want members to become frustrated. We must stay calm, be patient and stick together.


People also need to start sticking up/standing up for themselves and not expecting the union to wipe their arse for them. Things are going to start getting even worse in the next 3 or 4 weeks with autumn pressure. Just do what you can to the best of your ability, the managers can earn their 2.7% sorting the leftovers out.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 19:39

Woody Guthrie wrote:
Seriously though what can the union do apart from talk?


They could be honest with the membership, stop trying to play the big shot and get their own house in order. Improve representation and diversity throughout the branch structure. Start protecting members at office level. Clear out the old boys network and the glorified social clubs. Engage with Royal Mail on a professional level. Ditch the love affair with social media. Start acting like a union.
There's more but I don't want to do a Terry...

You should have applied for Terry's job. In fact almost anyone, except Terry, should have applied for Terry's job.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 21:04

toonshola wrote:Terry spent a whole hour talking while simultaneously saying absolutely nothing. Tune in next week for the latest non update update.

Well he did mention the starting point of a 3 Yr pay deal was derisory and below what the managers got.......and they aren't allowed to talk about any details to the members

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 21:09

toonshola wrote:Terry spent a whole hour talking while simultaneously saying absolutely nothing. Tune in next week for the latest non update update.


Yes i honeslty fell asleep 18 mins in :neutral: Same old crap again.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 21:30

toonshola wrote:
spen wrote:Van sharing is back as long as you wear masks


There is zero chance that is going to happen. Until the government changes the rules on vehicle sharing during Covid then van share is not returning. And with the virus growing again the last thing the government will be doing is scaling back any of the rules/restrictions. Next spring is probably an optimistic target for van share to return and the sooner we all accept that the better.


What rules are these then? I've not seen any rules from the government regarding vehicle sharing. Obviously the binmen must have missed them too....

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 21:37

Jpro747 wrote:Seriously though what can the union do apart from talk? How much support would another ballot for strike action get from both members and the public in the current crisis? If we do get a vote for strike action Royal mail will just get another injunction anyway. We have to be patient. RM want members to become frustrated. We must stay calm, be patient and stick together.

I agree with what your saying but all this public support nonsense annoys me we are a private company now public support is a nothing we dont serve the public anymore were a privatised business not a public service...

5:30pm today 18/09/20

18 Sep 2020, 21:42

shaun2urz wrote:What rules are these then? I've not seen any rules from the government regarding vehicle sharing. Obviously the binmen must have missed them too....


It's all on the government website so that's probably why you missed them, who would have thought to look there?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-saf ... 9/vehicles

Objective: To maintain social distancing wherever possible between individuals when in vehicles:

avoid multiple occupancy vehicles where safe to do so

vehicles should not be shared if possible

if it is not possible to maintain social distancing guidelines inside vehicles (2m, or 1m with risk mitigation where 2m is not viable), consider additional safety measures

Steps that will usually be needed:

Keeping the number of people in the vehicle to a minimum and as distanced within the vehicle space as possible.

Devising mitigation measures where workers cannot maintain social distancing guidelines to minimise the risk of transmission, including:

– clear signage to outline social distancing measures in place
– single person or contactless refuelling where possible
– using physical screening, provided this does not compromise safety, for example, through reducing visibility
– sitting side-by-side not face-to-face and increasing ventilation where possible.

Using a fixed pairing system if workers have to be in close proximity, for example in a vehicle.

Making sure vehicles are well-ventilated to increase the flow of air, for example, by opening a window.

Ensure regular cleaning of vehicles, in particular between different users.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

19 Sep 2020, 19:27

Well I don't know

The sight of Terry in a Tutu
But anyone can get used to
your loving singing voice
your loving singing voice
and no action in your head
and the reaction in your space between your head
once more to the ballot box
just don't let the cookies go to your head
oh no oh no oh no
Don't sell us out sell us out
Again
Again

5:30pm today 18/09/20

20 Sep 2020, 19:11

toonshola wrote:
spen wrote:Van sharing is back as long as you wear masks


There is zero chance that is going to happen. Until the government changes the rules on vehicle sharing during Covid then van share is not returning. And with the virus growing again the last thing the government will be doing is scaling back any of the rules/restrictions. Next spring is probably an optimistic target for van share to return and the sooner we all accept that the better.

Bin men, police, ambulance crews, fire crews, driving instructors, bus drivers, taxi drivers, air stewards......why not posties? After all, we all work next to each other for the first 2 hrs of the day.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

20 Sep 2020, 19:16

Grumpyoldmailman wrote:
Jpro747 wrote:Seriously though what can the union do apart from talk? How much support would another ballot for strike action get from both members and the public in the current crisis? If we do get a vote for strike action Royal mail will just get another injunction anyway. We have to be patient. RM want members to become frustrated. We must stay calm, be patient and stick together.


People also need to start sticking up/standing up for themselves and not expecting the union to wipe their arse for them. Things are going to start getting even worse in the next 3 or 4 weeks with autumn pressure. Just do what you can to the best of your ability, the managers can earn their 2.7% sorting the leftovers out.

Well said. No early starts, not even 2 mins, take all breaks even if you 'haven't got time' , if you don't have time for lapsing, tell them, if you don't want to do overtime tell them. Claim every minute of overtime you do.

5:30pm today 18/09/20

20 Sep 2020, 19:47

Woody Guthrie wrote:
shaun2urz wrote:What rules are these then? I've not seen any rules from the government regarding vehicle sharing. Obviously the binmen must have missed them too....


It's all on the government website so that's probably why you missed them, who would have thought to look there?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-saf ... 9/vehicles

Objective: To maintain social distancing wherever possible between individuals when in vehicles:

avoid multiple occupancy vehicles where safe to do so

vehicles should not be shared if possible

if it is not possible to maintain social distancing guidelines inside vehicles (2m, or 1m with risk mitigation where 2m is not viable), consider additional safety measures

Steps that will usually be needed:

Keeping the number of people in the vehicle to a minimum and as distanced within the vehicle space as possible.

Devising mitigation measures where workers cannot maintain social distancing guidelines to minimise the risk of transmission, including:

– clear signage to outline social distancing measures in place
– single person or contactless refuelling where possible
– using physical screening, provided this does not compromise safety, for example, through reducing visibility
– sitting side-by-side not face-to-face and increasing ventilation where possible.

Using a fixed pairing system if workers have to be in close proximity, for example in a vehicle.

Making sure vehicles are well-ventilated to increase the flow of air, for example, by opening a window.

Ensure regular cleaning of vehicles, in particular between different users.


That's guidance, not rules. BIG difference.

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