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Are you ready to back the CWU in this fight?

Poll ended at 16 Oct 2019, 10:53

YES
436
90%
NO
51
10%
 
Total votes : 487

Who's ready to take industrial action?

30 Sep 2019, 06:30

Phantom wrote:
I agree we have lost jobs in the past and we had a different leadership then as in "Silly Billy" who agreed to everything RM wanted and perhaps we we're dicks for not demanding more at the time.

Such a gross rewriting of history.
Billy Hayes didn't agree to anything - the members did.
And I think you'll find it was Ward who did the negotiating back then.

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30 Sep 2019, 17:41

clashcityrocker wrote:
Phantom wrote:
I agree we have lost jobs in the past and we had a different leadership then as in "Silly Billy" who agreed to everything RM wanted and perhaps we we're dicks for not demanding more at the time.

Such a gross rewriting of history.
Billy Hayes didn't agree to anything - the members did.
And I think you'll find it was Ward who did the negotiating back then.


No, Billy did oversee new agreements, just like Ward will do now, the union agree policies and then it's put to the members.

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30 Sep 2019, 19:04

No, Billy did oversee new agreements


The last agreement Billy Hayes was directly involved with was the Way Forward 19 years ago.

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01 Oct 2019, 16:31

Woody Guthrie wrote:
No, Billy did oversee new agreements


The last agreement Billy Hayes was directly involved with was the Way Forward 19 years ago.

and oh.....how much further forward we have come since.

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01 Oct 2019, 22:00

Phantom wrote:Are you ready to back the CWU in this fight to stop Rico Back and his band of sharks and not to mention his mates in the city (the larger shareholders), asset stripping, selling off and destroying the British Postal service just so they can all retire with millions in the bank and leave you jobless?

* I'll remove this comment because it's upsetting a few *

:wave of course one should; will and (in fact) has...why wouldn't one? ya feckin planks...it's your hard won right to vote against losing your hard won rights...doh! :coolr

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02 Oct 2019, 21:47

clashcityrocker wrote:
Postie45 wrote:
Its a negotiating ploy, you give away NOTHING.

Is it like Brexit?
Do you have to wait until you see the whites of their eyes?



WHATEVER

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04 Oct 2019, 15:51

Are there any links to prove what the cwu say is true, or do we just believe them at face value?

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04 Oct 2019, 18:44

or you could just believe what Royal Mail say.

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05 Oct 2019, 19:23

leolion855 wrote:Are there any links to prove what the cwu say is true, or do we just believe them at face value?


I would say not tackling the bullying culture by managers - evidence is many offices walking out

I would say the 2nd hour off the working week, funding for it is there, look at the pda actuals

Parcel split - no joint cwu discussions on this and it will remove duties from non-lat offices.

Parcelforce - is a sell off via the backdoor

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06 Oct 2019, 01:06

To be honest, I’m quite looking forward to a strike, I think it will be therapeutic for a lot of staff after years of taking it in the teeth. Pretty sure I’m not alone.

And that is when you know a company has very serious management problems.

Vote YES (and bring cake)

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09 Oct 2019, 05:21

Takeitforaride wrote:To be honest, I’m quite looking forward to a strike, I think it will be therapeutic for a lot of staff after years of taking it in the teeth. Pretty sure I’m not alone.

And that is when you know a company has very serious management problems.

Vote YES (and bring cake)

CAKE AND ARSE PARTY AT THE MEDIATION...JUST PROTECT OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS BEFORE AMAZON DOES A DEAL WITH RICO FOR 'OUR' LABOUR...fer chrissakes :roll:

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09 Oct 2019, 18:31

we have just employed a person to deliver the LAT parcels that come into our office , 16 parcels over five days 25 hours it has cost royal mail if this is the way forward we all should be very worried about our jobs I can see a profit warning coming very soon.

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09 Oct 2019, 22:16

I'm worried, for clarity I voted yes, but people in my office are asking what exactly would we be striking for??

The 1 hour off the working week - well they don't seem bothered at waiting a year for that

and rumors abound that when we get a yes vote and go out then they will let us stay out -and not let us back in until we agree new contracts which won't include many of the terms we have now

now I am no newbie, I have been in many disputes and strikes over the years, but I always knew why - I am struggling to give answers when they ask why they should lose wages

This campaign has not been very clear at all

Nobody on the shop floor seems to know why we would be striking and I fear many will just come in- HELP!

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09 Oct 2019, 22:49

feduppostie wrote:I'm worried, for clarity I voted yes, but people in my office are asking what exactly would we be striking for??

The 1 hour off the working week - well they don't seem bothered at waiting a year for that

and rumors abound that when we get a yes vote and go out then they will let us stay out -and not let us back in until we agree new contracts which won't include many of the terms we have now

now I am no newbie, I have been in many disputes and strikes over the years, but I always knew why - I am struggling to give answers when they ask why they should lose wages

This campaign has not been very clear at all

Nobody on the shop floor seems to know why we would be striking and I fear many will just come in- HELP!

I agree the communication on the issues has not been clear or very explanatory from the CWU or the RM. On the other hand unless you live in a cupboard you should know about the new parcel strategy, which involves taking the bulk, and the future of RM, away from us and giving it to staff at LAT hubs. You may also have heard about their decision to split Parcel force away from the company which is a worrying sign of their future intentions for the rest of us. These two points alone are more than enough to justify us threatening them with industrial action.
Most of the communications have been centred around the pay rise from the SWW and the dropping of agreements surrounding the last pay negotiations. A pay rise can be negotiated at any time and the agreements from the last pay negotiations obviously weren't worth the paper they were written on! We need to forget about the SWW and what they agreed to do but have blatantly ignored and focus on saving our jobs by smashing the concept of the new parcel strategy.

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13 Oct 2019, 08:52

Celgar wrote:
feduppostie wrote:I'm worried, for clarity I voted yes, but people in my office are asking what exactly would we be striking for??

The 1 hour off the working week - well they don't seem bothered at waiting a year for that

and rumors abound that when we get a yes vote and go out then they will let us stay out -and not let us back in until we agree new contracts which won't include many of the terms we have now

now I am no newbie, I have been in many disputes and strikes over the years, but I always knew why - I am struggling to give answers when they ask why they should lose wages

This campaign has not been very clear at all

Nobody on the shop floor seems to know why we would be striking and I fear many will just come in- HELP!

I agree the communication on the issues has not been clear or very explanatory from the CWU or the RM. On the other hand unless you live in a cupboard you should know about the new parcel strategy, which involves taking the bulk, and the future of RM, away from us and giving it to staff at LAT hubs. You may also have heard about their decision to split Parcel force away from the company which is a worrying sign of their future intentions for the rest of us. These two points alone are more than enough to justify us threatening them with industrial action.
Most of the communications have been centred around the pay rise from the SWW and the dropping of agreements surrounding the last pay negotiations. A pay rise can be negotiated at any time and the agreements from the last pay negotiations obviously weren't worth the paper they were written on! We need to forget about the SWW and what they agreed to do but have blatantly ignored and focus on saving our jobs by smashing the concept of the new parcel strategy.


I would say NOT tackling the bullying culture by managers - evidence is many offices walking out

Parcel split - no joint cwu discussions on this and it will remove duties from non-lat offices.

Parcelforce - is a sell off via the backdoor - if they get away with doing it to them, they will then come for other sections of royal mail, letters would be next!

I would say the 2nd hour off the working week, to protect duty size and so that you are not walking for 6+hours a day

Royal mail want zero hour contracts, this is the model private couriers use and they want it

Are these not good enough reasons to strike? - if the answer is no then you really need to look in the mirror.

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13 Oct 2019, 10:06

I agree with all of the above but the problem we have is that quite a large number of our colleagues just want to get in and rush around to finish as early as possible, nothing you say to them will change their mindset. I think some of them are just a bit thick to be honest as they refuse to listen to reason.

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13 Oct 2019, 10:56

feduppostie wrote:I'm worried, for clarity I voted yes, but people in my office are asking what exactly would we be striking for??

The 1 hour off the working week - well they don't seem bothered at waiting a year for that

and rumors abound that when we get a yes vote and go out then they will let us stay out -and not let us back in until we agree new contracts which won't include many of the terms we have now

now I am no newbie, I have been in many disputes and strikes over the years, but I always knew why - I am struggling to give answers when they ask why they should lose wages

This campaign has not been very clear at all

Nobody on the shop floor seems to know why we would be striking and I fear many will just come in- HELP!

THIS

CWU Dispute Update

Dear Colleague

Ballot for Industrial Action
From 24th September 2019 you will be receiving an industrial action ballot paper asking you to vote yes for industrial action.

This communication is designed to provide you
with the reasons why there is no other choice but
to fight to protect your terms and conditions and to vote yes.

What is the dispute about?
The new Chief Executive, Rico Back, has clearly
decided that the way forward for Royal Mail is to
have a cheaper more flexible workforce.

This is why Royal Mail, under Rico Back’s leadership, has developed a strategy which is designed to marginalise the CWU in order to create a cheaper more flexible employment model.

What is Royal Mail’s strategy?
• Royal Mail want to review the legal guarantees which the CWU secured when Royal Mail was privatised. This means they want to review, and possibly change, the legal guarantees which stopped Royal Mail from outsourcing, franchising, breaking up the company, creating a two-tier workforce as well as stopping Royal Mail from recruiting zero-hour contracts.

• Royal Mail have also chosen to set up a separate profit and loss Parcelforce company which will require all Parcelforce staff to be TUPE over to the new company. If they get away with this then they could do the same with processing, distribution, collections, delivery, logistics,
RDCs or International. It is important that members understand TUPE only protects terms and conditions for a year.

• Royal Mail want to separate larger parcels and stop them being processed in 37 mail centres and RDCs and 1,000 delivery offices.

• Royal Mail want to deliver the larger parcels in circa 300 LAT units. They would be delivered later in the day, up to 19:00. The plan Royal Mail want is that one walk in every six would become the late driver and the remaining five walks would absorb the duty which has moved to the late parcel driver.

• Royal Mail want to use PDA actuals to resource and also as a revision tool even though they know it does not give a true reflection of an OPG’s duty.

• Additionally, Royal Mail want to introduce a system called resource scheduler which produces different duty sets for an office depending on traffic variations and linked to PDA’s actual. This is a complete game changer.

• Royal Mail want to introduce automated hours data capture (automated signing in and out) and link it to what you are paid.

• Royal Mail want to cut 20,000 jobs.

• Royal Mail are not saying they will support the continuation of the USO (universal service obligation) when Ofcom reviews it next year. This possibly means the USO being cut to a five day service, and resulting in the loss of 20,000 jobs.

• Royal Mail are refusing to honour the commitment to a further hour off the working week in October. This refusal also stops part timers from achieving a 2.6% increase in pay. Instead Royal Mail want unrealistic budgeting savings.

• Royal Mail’s unacceptable management actions are creating flash points in too many offices in the UK. It is essential we have a resolution to poor culture in the workplace.
• Royal Mail want 30-minute flexibility 6 days per week on start and finish times.

So what happens next?
• Royal Mail and the CWU are due to attempt to resolve these fundamental differences via external mediation later this month.
• All CWU members in Royal Mail/Parcelforce will be balloted for industrial action from 24 September 2019
and the close of the ballot will be 15 October 2019.

What do I need to do as a member?
• As a CWU member it is vital that you cast your vote in the industrial action ballot.

• The Conservative Government in 2017 introduced new anti-trade union employment which stipulates that an industrial action ballot has to achieve at least 50% or over for it to be valid. This is why it is so important you vote in this industrial action ballot.

Why should I support the CWU?
The CWU have over many years not only defended members terms and conditions but also won significant new benefits for the members.

These benefits include:
Basic pensionable pay
London Weighting pay ranges
RRIS payments
Paid holidays
Paid meal reliefs
Shift allowances which are pensionable
5 day or less working
Sick pay
Christmas bonus

All of the above is because previous union
members have taken industrial action to achieve.

The CWU members have also stopped over many
years Royal Mail’s proposals on:
Monthly pay
Reducing sick leave
Cutting shift allowances
Introducing delivery duties from 09:00 in the
morning to 17:00 in the late afternoon
Introducing team working
Removing seniority
Removing MTSF

Only by voting yes will the CWU be in a strong
position to defend members terms and conditions.

Unless we get a massive yes vote then Royal Mail
will attack our hard-fought terms and conditions.

Vote Yes


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