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Is it time to bin the USO?

12 Sep 2019, 06:53

09:00-17:00 for deliveries I can see happening at some point so that RM could cut down or even eliminate night rate in MCs. If letters and flats went to being every other day then that would probably be all MPUs reverting back to being normal DOs and their CSS machines removed

Is it time to bin the USO?

12 Sep 2019, 09:00

Celgar wrote:
chickenwittle wrote:
ballsup wrote:even if USO went you can expect Saturday to still be a delivery day

Rubbish

There are two possible major changes on the USO front. The one more likely to be pushed is an every other day service for letters and flats with an every day service for packets & parcels. I imagine they might look for changes to delivery for the Scottish islands & other more difficult locations. They should look to level playing field changes such as a rethink of the DSA and enforcement of minimum wage requirements for the competition but those issues haven't been mentioned.
Regarding the five day operation plan I don't think they will go for that. If they do then the wise and obvious choice would be to drop the Tuesday. If they wanted to break the strike vote or make the false impression that they care about the workforce then Saturday would be another option. It would lead to thousands more job losses though so the union would fight it tooth and nail.

It’s the union that are spreading this rumour that Tuesday would be the day dropped rather than the Saturday as they know if Royal Mail wanted to drop the Saturday it would get the backing of the work force.How many businesses rely on mon to fri Mail , it would be commercial suicide to drop a day other than Saturday.

Is it time to bin the USO?

12 Sep 2019, 12:53

Anyone thinking the business wouldn’t operate Saturday’s think again. Look at our competitors - working 7 days a week. People want their parcels asap so not delivering weekends would mean our customers switching to the competitors who can do it cheaper and faster.

Is it time to bin the USO?

12 Sep 2019, 13:23

Jpro747 wrote:Anyone thinking the business wouldn’t operate Saturday’s think again. Look at our competitors - working 7 days a week. People want their parcels asap so not delivering weekends would mean our customers switching to the competitors who can do it cheaper and faster.

Your missing the point like quite a few on here do.We are not talking about not delivering parcels on Saturday or even sundays , we are talking about dropping the uso for Saturday which only covers letters.

Is it time to bin the USO?

12 Sep 2019, 14:28

chickenwittle wrote:
ballsup wrote:even if USO went you can expect Saturday to still be a delivery day

Rubbish


He's right it will still be a delivery day.
Just not for letters.

Is it time to bin the USO?

12 Sep 2019, 15:31

Woody Guthrie wrote:
chickenwittle wrote:
ballsup wrote:even if USO went you can expect Saturday to still be a delivery day

Rubbish


He's right it will still be a delivery day.
Just not for letters.

Yes he is right , tracked , specials etc. Which would only require a skeleton service but it’s all rumours at the moment .

Is it time to bin the USO?

12 Sep 2019, 22:57

You are not guaranteed they will cut Saturday deliveries. They could turn round & give everyone tuesdays off across the board as this is usually the lightest day for Mail.

Is it time to bin the USO?

13 Sep 2019, 10:17

Warriorpostie wrote:You are not guaranteed they will cut Saturday deliveries. They could turn round & give everyone tuesdays off across the board as this is usually the lightest day for Mail.

How does that make sense when every firm and business up and down the country work mon to fri and rely on service on these days . Would be commercial suicide.

Is it time to bin the USO?

13 Sep 2019, 14:43

This is a rumour put about by certain members of the union because the idea of a Mon - Fri is unfortunately quite appealing to a lot of members.

Closing the doors on a Tuesday makes no business sense at all and is a non-starter.

Is it time to bin the USO?

13 Sep 2019, 15:21

I can't see a Tuesday as businesses reply on mail during their Monday-Friday week.

Is it time to bin the USO?

13 Sep 2019, 15:46

SpacePhoenix wrote:09:00-17:00 for deliveries I can see happening at some point so that RM could cut down or even eliminate night rate in MCs. If letters and flats went to being every other day then that would probably be all MPUs reverting back to being normal DOs and their CSS machines removed


How would that work on a 25hr contract?

Is it time to bin the USO?

13 Sep 2019, 16:03

can't see as late as 5 as in the winter its dark by then and it's a health and safety thing then.

Is it time to bin the USO?

13 Sep 2019, 19:30

leolion855 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:09:00-17:00 for deliveries I can see happening at some point so that RM could cut down or even eliminate night rate in MCs. If letters and flats went to being every other day then that would probably be all MPUs reverting back to being normal DOs and their CSS machines removed


How would that work on a 25hr contract?


One of the ideas floated by a previous DOM would be that in offices (esp. long/short offices) PT hours would work back from the duty finish time (ie your start times change to whatever is 5 hours before the end), offer early O/T when needed, otherwise alternative arrangements would be made to cover the indoor work/SD's etc. However, those hours means we'd be going out/returning in rush hour, I'm sure RM have no desire to pay us to sit in a traffic jam so who knows. :nervous

Is it time to bin the USO?

13 Sep 2019, 20:07

glass joe wrote:can't see as late as 5 as in the winter its dark by then and it's a health and safety thing then.


You presume we'd work in the same way.

If only half the rounds are going out each day and with the USO gone, there's no reason why you couldn't start at 8.45, tie up yesterday's mail, pick up today's packets and specials and head out for, say 9.30. Deliver 9.30-12. Break 12-12.20. Deliver 12.20-2.50. Break 2.50-3. Prep today's mail 3-4.15 (or thereabouts).

Obviously times could vary from that a bit. But there's no reason with the abolition of the USO why mail would need to be prepped early.

It could be much worse than that if they decide to use some people prepping rounds all day as duty and others delivering all day with something like a 2 delivery 1 prep rota.

Is it time to bin the USO?

13 Sep 2019, 20:29

leolion855 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:09:00-17:00 for deliveries I can see happening at some point so that RM could cut down or even eliminate night rate in MCs. If letters and flats went to being every other day then that would probably be all MPUs reverting back to being normal DOs and their CSS machines removed


How would that work on a 25hr contract?

3day week 8hours 20mins per day :hmmmm

Is it time to bin the USO?

14 Sep 2019, 02:44

Only if the CEO wet dream 1/6 axed in a day and possibly more the USO is here for the transition of the letters and parcels but letters/documents will still need sending not everyone is on the internet nor can you be when rehoused or worse than that!

Is it time to bin the USO?

14 Sep 2019, 06:22

k979aaa wrote:Only if the CEO wet dream 1/6 axed in a day and possibly more the USO is here for the transition of the letters and parcels but letters/documents will still need sending not everyone is on the internet nor can you be when rehoused or worse than that!


An astonishingly small percentage of the mail we deliver is urgent enough to worry about it being a day or two later. The vast bulk of it is advertising, bills and the odd magazine/certificate, etc. It's extremely hard to see how anyone would suffer from that going to an alternate day service. Please note, I'm not advocating it at all. But you can bet that 'only' 1/6 jobs being axed is the company's worst-case scenario.

Is it time to bin the USO?

14 Sep 2019, 08:14

Warriorpostie wrote:You are not guaranteed they will cut Saturday deliveries. They could turn round & give everyone tuesdays off across the board as this is usually the lightest day for Mail.


This is EXACTLY what would happen! Apparently the great british public prefer to receive mail on saturdays than an other day, given that tuesday is ridiculously light that would be the day they scrap! So if your thinking the scrapping of the USO would give everyone a monday to friday job you all need to think again because it wouldn't

Is it time to bin the USO?

14 Sep 2019, 21:43

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Is it time to bin the USO?

14 Sep 2019, 22:02

New Zealand changed their USO a few years ago to a 3 day delivery service and allow customers to choose a Mon, Wed and Fri pattern of delivery or Tues, Thur or Sat. If thats the plan here you are talking scary levels of job losses.

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