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DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

26 Jul 2019, 17:49

citypostie wrote:
rogersh wrote:Terry states; "The business seem reluctant to go into external mediation but they've got a choice - we either go into external mediation or we go straight to whatever the next route is for us to progress our disagreement."
So can Royal Mail choose to opt out of external mediation?


Maybe they think the cwu won't get the backing for strike action if they ballot so are calling Terry's bluff or they want us to strike in September before the parcels ramp up towards christmas


Timescale for previous external mediation
24/10/2017 Mediator appointed
26/10/2017 Terry Pullinger enters mediation
01/12/ 2017 Mediators report published

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

26 Jul 2019, 20:09

rogersh wrote:
citypostie wrote:
rogersh wrote:Terry states; "The business seem reluctant to go into external mediation but they've got a choice - we either go into external mediation or we go straight to whatever the next route is for us to progress our disagreement."
So can Royal Mail choose to opt out of external mediation?


Maybe they think the cwu won't get the backing for strike action if they ballot so are calling Terry's bluff or they want us to strike in September before the parcels ramp up towards christmas


Timescale for previous external mediation
24/10/2017 Mediator appointed
26/10/2017 Terry Pullinger enters mediation
01/12/ 2017 Mediators report published


So if royal mail say no to mediation the cwu would go straight to a ballot? Possible meaning action earlier in the year not at Christmas?

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

26 Jul 2019, 20:15

citypostie wrote:
rogersh wrote:
citypostie wrote:
rogersh wrote:Terry states; "The business seem reluctant to go into external mediation but they've got a choice - we either go into external mediation or we go straight to whatever the next route is for us to progress our disagreement."
So can Royal Mail choose to opt out of external mediation?


Maybe they think the cwu won't get the backing for strike action if they ballot so are calling Terry's bluff or they want us to strike in September before the parcels ramp up towards christmas


Timescale for previous external mediation
24/10/2017 Mediator appointed
26/10/2017 Terry Pullinger enters mediation
01/12/ 2017 Mediators report published


So if royal mail say no to mediation the cwu would go straight to a ballot? Possible meaning action earlier in the year not at Christmas?

Depending how long IA went on for. It could roll into Xmas.

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

28 Jul 2019, 09:38

Marshamp11 wrote:
citypostie wrote:
rogersh wrote:
citypostie wrote:
rogersh wrote:Terry states; "The business seem reluctant to go into external mediation but they've got a choice - we either go into external mediation or we go straight to whatever the next route is for us to progress our disagreement."
So can Royal Mail choose to opt out of external mediation?


Maybe they think the cwu won't get the backing for strike action if they ballot so are calling Terry's bluff or they want us to strike in September before the parcels ramp up towards christmas


Timescale for previous external mediation
24/10/2017 Mediator appointed
26/10/2017 Terry Pullinger enters mediation
01/12/ 2017 Mediators report published


So if royal mail say no to mediation the cwu would go straight to a ballot? Possible meaning action earlier in the year not at Christmas?

Depending how long IA went on for. It could roll into Xmas.


We need to be striking November onwards for maximum impact on Rico and his mates

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

28 Jul 2019, 10:08

citypostie wrote:
We need to be striking November onwards for maximum impact on Rico and his mates

The maximum impact might be a lot of people moving their custom to our competitors.

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

29 Jul 2019, 11:26

clashcityrocker wrote:
citypostie wrote:
We need to be striking November onwards for maximum impact on Rico and his mates

The maximum impact might be a lot of people moving their custom to our competitors.



:arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

29 Jul 2019, 12:02

Navalron wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
citypostie wrote:
We need to be striking November onwards for maximum impact on Rico and his mates

The maximum impact might be a lot of people moving their custom to our competitors.



:arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh


But he is right, and every postie has to weigh the advantages and disadvantages both personally to themselves, their colleagues, and the business as well.

Any strike will drive some customers to our competitors, but if the reason for the strike is strong enough that shouldn't stop us, but it is something we should acknowledge.

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

29 Jul 2019, 14:46

Well said

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

30 Jul 2019, 15:31

Everybody in the Courier seems to be on board.
Can't see any of them voting for industrial action.

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

30 Jul 2019, 23:05

clashcityrocker wrote:Everybody in the Courier seems to be on board.
Can't see any of them voting for industrial action.

Yes, they look so happy, I don,t know what Universe they are in but it seems a long way from mine. :hmmmm

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

10 Aug 2019, 03:59

clashcityrocker wrote:Everybody in the Courier seems to be on board.
Can't see any of them voting for industrial action.

It is amazing how many managers there are left in the country considering the recent cull of management it just seams an endless flow just like sewage still the s**t always goes to the top as they say!

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

11 Aug 2019, 09:48

clashcityrocker wrote:Everybody in the Courier seems to be on board.
Can't see any of them voting for industrial action.

It's all scripted like television broadcasts in North Korea. They were supposedly going to turn up in our DO, unless someone was pulling my leg, but the timing coincided with the situation in our DO going **** up so it never happened. The courier would never get anyone in our DO to say the stuff that is quoted in the Courier. I guess either the posties featured don't feel it's possible to speak their mind or maybe RM just insert 'greywash' and attribute it to the posties. There are stupid people about so maybe the posties are those kind of people.

DGSP Terry Pullinger on the current talks with Royal Mail

11 Aug 2019, 11:02

I have posted the timeline re - external mediation except the time between the high court injunction 12/10/2017 & appointment of Professor Lynette Harris 12 days later.

The Royal Mail and CWU Mediation Process Timeline in 2017 stated;
"The Appointment of an external Mediator – At least 1 week
An external mediator will be appointed by ACAS."

I assume the CWU have requested external mediation on 25 July 2019 - So it appears we are at least beyond two weeks of that request & still no announcement of the appointment.

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