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A National Update

05 Dec 2017, 19:38

To All Branch Secretaries and Area Reps : The purpose of this text is give you an update on the National Negotiations and to inform you that considerable progress has been made on some of the key issues but as yet no agreement has been reached.

The Postal Executive are expected later today to agree an extension to the talks. An LTB and a video from Terry will also be released.

We will also email the mediators report. However please understand that this is not an agreement and that Royal Mail and the CWU have met after the mediator had stopped the process and that some issues have moved on a lot further than the mediators report.

1. On Pensions, Royal Mail have agreed to the principle of one pension scheme for all CWU members. This will be a wage in retirement collective DC scheme.

However this will need a law change. The select committee are already supporting such a scheme and Royal Mail and the CWU will lobby to get this new law passed as soon as possible.

Both parties have also agreed that pensionable pay will consist of all pay and pensionable allowances.

This will mean that the lower earnings limit will cease for ex POPS scheme members and that the DC scheme will for the first time have pensionable allowances included in their pensionable Pay once the new scheme is introduced.

Negotiations have also discussed what the interim and transitional arrangements will be until the legislative framework has changed.

Extending the scheme is one option but Royal Mail have offered that DB members could as an interim measure transfer into the Defined Benefit cash balance scheme ( DBCBS ). Royal Mail would transfer anyone in the DC scheme who has done 5 or more years into the DBCBS.

Additionally, Royal Mail would auto enrol all current DC scheme members to the highest employer contribution tier of 10% once they have done 12 months in the nursery scheme.

2. Pay : whilst no pay deal has yet been agreed , Royal Mail are angry at the mediator for recommending 2.6% on all allowances and pay backdated to April.

The mediators have also recommended 2% from next April along with an hour off the working week.

The CWU believe that Royal Mail will move on Pay when we get closer to an agreement.

3. On the legal guarantees the mediator supported Royal Mail’s view that the legal guarantees should not be reviewed until 2019.

The CWU have not accepted this and have stated that they want the extension included in any final deal. This remains unresolved.

3. On the SWW we have got an hours reduction but want to agree the road map for a 35 hour gross working week within any final deal.

4. On Resourcing, Holiday Pay for Part timers and the IR Framework : Progress has been made but there is still more to achieve before a final agreement.

5. On the Pipeline Issues : Real progress has been made and we have changed significantly Royal Mail’s original Pipeline plans.

We have changed Royal Mail’s proposals from a 17:00 last letter to a range from 14:30 until 15:30 based on a shorter working week and the outcome of further trials.

On the Automated Hours Data capture we have significantly changed the business plan which means it cannot be used for conduct, Performance standards / management or for identifying where individuals are on a sorting floor. The trials will take place if any agreement is reached in 4 sites.

On new ways of working we have watered down their walk ownership proposals and are trying to agree the parameters for any trial.

On the issues of removing frames etc we are trying to agree some trials on a range of options.

Royal Mail want Network 17/18.


We will give you a full report on the 14th December at the Divisional Meeting and Tony Bouch will give you a full presentation on the pipeline and other initiatives.

Please feel free to forward this to your local reps as soon as the LTB comes out.

We will also be doing a comms to our members later this week and we want as many members meetings to take place on National Post Workers Day next Tuesday 12th December 2017.

Whilst the silence has been frustrating , we believe that real progress has been made and hopefully we can reach a good agreement over the next few meetings.

Regards


Martin Walsh Mark Palfrey John Simkins
London Divisional Reps


A National Update

05 Dec 2017, 19:46

Thanks for the info Dingo :Applause

A National Update

05 Dec 2017, 19:51

"Royal Mail want Network 17/18."

Meaning what?

A National Update

05 Dec 2017, 20:14

norm wrote:"Royal Mail want Network 17/18."

Meaning what?

Network is logistics.
Let's see if we get the hours reduction?

A National Update

05 Dec 2017, 21:03

sounds like mediator on our side especially regards pay rise and it being back dated,bet moya had steam coming out of her ears

A National Update

05 Dec 2017, 21:11

watered down walk ownership means what ? walk collapsing on s**t traffic figures by any chance . :crazy: still think we needed to hit the streets to get stuff set in stone , as its all down to trials and we all now what there like with this company and then it will be down to local agreements as always not national . this is s**t imo.

A National Update

05 Dec 2017, 21:50

i smell shite on delivery
14.30-15.30 finishing time means latest time for rm which would only be 1hr 30min away from their pipeline objective
on the working methods and doing away with sorting frames on trial
WHAT THE f**k do they need to trial its not possible to carry 3 bundles pda packet write out 739 all in one go we only have 2 hands

A National Update

05 Dec 2017, 22:07

We have been finishing at 15.30 since the last two revisions.

A National Update

06 Dec 2017, 04:57

worktotime wrote:watered down walk ownership means what ? walk collapsing on s**t traffic figures by any chance . :crazy: still think we needed to hit the streets to get stuff set in stone , as its all down to trials and we all now what there like with this company and then it will be down to local agreements as always not national . this is s**t imo.

I take it you mean the bulls**t figures were you do the same amount of IPS regardless of the number of D2ds you might have ?

A National Update

06 Dec 2017, 06:04

LouBarlow wrote:We have been finishing at 15.30 since the last two revisions.


15.15 in my office, for the last 7 years.

A National Update

06 Dec 2017, 06:09

All seems pretty fine to me with bit improvement on pay to come.
Walk ownership is a big no no & if the deal depends on that including the pension they can stuff it.

A National Update

06 Dec 2017, 08:37

cloherty1976 wrote:
norm wrote:"Royal Mail want Network 17/18."

Meaning what?

Network is logistics.
Let's see if we get the hours reduction?
They have trouble with the drivers hours by reducing by an hour a week, bet they offer us money for the loss of the hour.
Network 17/18, we get a review of driving duties, the next one is Network 17/18 although the last Network review was nearly 2 years ago.

A National Update

06 Dec 2017, 14:08

We need to understand this new proposed pension scheme and if any benefits are guaranteed s in Defined Benefits.

Personally preferred final salary of course, defined contribution is the worst pension to have.

A National Update

06 Dec 2017, 16:17

"On new ways of working we have watered down their walk ownership proposals and are trying to agree the parameters for any trial"

"On the issues of removing frames etc we are trying to agree some trials on a range of options"

We have all seen the CWU's and Royal Mails idea of a Trial. We will try it and if it doesn't work we will do it anyway!

Look no further than CDV duties. They get brought in then when people are going well over their time every day the office union rep tells you just to work to your time.

Well no, if a way of working does not work then it should never have been introduced in the first place, instead of leaving staff to have a daily battle with managers about working past their finish time. :no no

A National Update

06 Dec 2017, 16:26

Well no, if a way of working does not work then it should never have been introduced in the first place, instead of leaving staff to have a daily battle with managers about working past their finish time. :no no


It's one of those "hard to explain to outsiders" issues that the RM business model has, in any other industry the boss will approach you if he/she needs a bit of overtime done, they'll ask, they may bribe, they might even pressure you a bit but at the end of the day they'll come to you. That's what needs to change. Royal Mail expect and assume that you've nothing better to do with your time, you have to approach them and if you refuse the default position is question, insult and threaten.

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