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Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

17 Jan 2013, 18:10

Lad put in a few PMT Vehicle repair forms in. They weren't acted upon, so his van gave up the ghost.
Driver lost 3 hrs faffing about getting replacement van for rest of his round.
So, lost delivery time, diesel, transport of broken vehicle etc, and it all came home to roost. False economy overall..again.
( He was told the PMT's were NOT to be acted upon, so that they could still use the van til its last breaths... and not have to get him a replacement van.)
Beggars belief!

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

06 Mar 2013, 18:46

I refused to use my car as of this week. My 1st drop is exactly 4 miles from the DO. Monday they allowed me to use a van, yesterday was my day off. Today I was informed that I was not entitled to a van. I was then told that I had 2 choices: To take on a different round nearer to the office, or to become a "floater". When I asked the specific question "So is a car a pre-requisite for my duty?" the manager got all red-faced and then said that I'd have to use a bike then. Where do I stand on this? I've never used my car out of choice and have never had business insurance. If I allow them to take me off my round then they will just draft in another car owner so they can take the p!ss all over again.

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

06 Mar 2013, 18:59

Bilbosmeggins wrote:I refused to use my car as of this week. My 1st drop is exactly 4 miles from the DO. Monday they allowed me to use a van, yesterday was my day off. Today I was informed that I was not entitled to a van. I was then told that I had 2 choices: To take on a different round nearer to the office, or to become a "floater". When I asked the specific question "So is a car a pre-requisite for my duty?" the manager got all red-faced and then said that I'd have to use a bike then. Where do I stand on this? I've never used my car out of choice and have never had business insurance. If I allow them to take me off my round then they will just draft in another car owner so they can take the p!ss all over again.


If you do work from your car without the correct insurance you could be standing in the Dock of the local court. Its illegal.

Is the duty a P&L or rural or Service Run then a van should be provided.

If it's a single walking duty (pre delivery methods) then a van is not a prerequisite, they should however provide transportation out, or the means to get such - a bus pass or tickets reimbursed for instance.

They should not plan a duty based on private car use.

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

06 Mar 2013, 19:07

Thanks for your prompt reply. Are they in a position to relieve me of my duty due to my refusal to use my car? The way the managers are treating and abusing the staff at the office is scandalous. This car situation is just the tip of the iceberg.

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

06 Mar 2013, 19:20

Bilbosmeggins wrote:Thanks for your prompt reply. Are they in a position to relieve me of my duty due to my refusal to use my car? The way the managers are treating and abusing the staff at the office is scandalous. This car situation is just the tip of the iceberg.

They could try and may indeed succeed, but dependant on various things they shouldn't try it on - get the union involved would be my suggestion.

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

21 Feb 2014, 22:25

If a manager authorises me to use my car, that's good enough for me. Don't give a toss what the union rep thinks... :nana

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

22 Feb 2014, 08:14

seniority19 wrote:If a manager authorises me to use my car, that's good enough for me. Don't give a toss what the union rep thinks... :nana

And when the police nick you for driving without insurance (you need business use insurance)? :cuppa

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

22 Feb 2014, 09:40

seniority19 wrote:If a manager authorises me to use my car, that's good enough for me. Don't give a toss what the union rep thinks... :nana


Your manager doesn't have the authority to override a national agreement because it suits you or him.

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

22 Feb 2014, 10:22

seniority19 wrote:If a manager authorises me to use my car, that's good enough for me. Don't give a toss what the union rep thinks... :nana

Don't worry schools back on monday.

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

22 Feb 2014, 11:59

seniority19 wrote:If a manager authorises me to use my car, that's good enough for me. Don't give a toss what the union rep thinks... :nana



If you are not legal it doesn't matter if the Manager authorised you. You will give a toss when old bill knocks on the drivers door.

......... and if you don't give a toss about the rep/CWU why are complaining so much about them.

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

25 Mar 2014, 18:47

Excellent letter from Dave but unfortunately it will fall on deaf ears.

Re: Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

05 Jun 2014, 17:45

i complained about some in our unit who were getting paid two extra hours for using there car to do delivery nothing was done so i entered the i/r framework and within two days result no one to take there car out to deliver and cannot take there car to first or last point of delivery so when they come to work in there car it stays there till they finish there duty the managers have been heavily warned so get on the i/r framework thats what it is there for good luck

Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

16 Mar 2017, 17:10

Just watch the amount of private cars parked on the main road on Saturday morning , but they've all disappeared at 9am . Weird that !

Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

15 May 2018, 20:45

I take exception to being asked to use for own car at any point connected with the job.

Firstly, I am not insured.
Secondly, Why the hell should I? I don't get my fuel paid for!

Totally and utterly unacceptable!

Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

16 May 2018, 14:07

This isn't allowed to happen. Whoever is asking you to do this should be for the high jump!

Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

09 Oct 2018, 19:51

I was told last week i was going to be trained as a floater as someone more senior had transferred in and they would have to train him on the duty i have done the last 4 years but not signed for.i was happy with this as it would mean more and would be more valuable when it came to ot.when i arrived in this morning my dom started taking about business insurance for my car i told him i will not be using my car and assumed i would be provided with a van.he told me he had nothing for me and i went home.he has since called and said they dont have much for me now.where do i stand?im on a 31hr contract and with rm 11 years.

Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

10 Oct 2018, 13:21

Joewaa wrote:I was told last week i was going to be trained as a floater as someone more senior had transferred in and they would have to train him on the duty i have done the last 4 years but not signed for.i was happy with this as it would mean more and would be more valuable when it came to ot.when i arrived in this morning my dom started taking about business insurance for my car i told him i will not be using my car and assumed i would be provided with a van.he told me he had nothing for me and i went home.he has since called and said they dont have much for me now.where do i stand?im on a 31hr contract and with rm 11 years.


Contact your rep, you should still be paid - and I would turn up for work every day except your day off.

Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

12 Oct 2018, 20:57

Joewaa wrote:I was told last week i was going to be trained as a floater as someone more senior had transferred in and they would have to train him on the duty i have done the last 4 years but not signed for.i was happy with this as it would mean more and would be more valuable when it came to ot.when i arrived in this morning my dom started taking about business insurance for my car i told him i will not be using my car and assumed i would be provided with a van.he told me he had nothing for me and i went home.he has since called and said they dont have much for me now.where do i stand?im on a 31hr contract and with rm 11 years.


DOM sounds a right tosspot. He does have something for you, the floater vacancy else you shouldn't have someone transferring in.

Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

20 Nov 2018, 08:25

Our managers use their cars to deliver walks when there is a staff shortage, I saw 2 managers go out yesterday each with a car full.

Isn’t that defeating the object. Plus unless they pay for work use on their own insurance policy, they aren’t covered.

Unauthorised and Illegal Use of Private Cars on Delivery

06 Jan 2019, 19:27

are royal mail vans insured for private use,driving to and from work whilst not on duty or parked in a street overnight instead of a yard or on private property,

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