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2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 07:34

2000 out of 9700 to be made redundant, saving £130m a year. Just announced in the yearly results.

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 07:39

Grumpyoldmailman wrote:2000 out of 9700 to be made redundant, saving £130m a year. Just announced in the yearly results.


Why have they gone after managers?

Is it because it's easier to clear Postal staff due to retirements? I wonder how many RM posties retire each month or even quit, it's probably quite a lot.

Is it because managers aren't really needed. A lot of the time I am in the depot they are just socialising with Posties or trying to get people to take out more post than they can deliver.

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 07:44

norris9 wrote:
Grumpyoldmailman wrote:2000 out of 9700 to be made redundant, saving £130m a year. Just announced in the yearly results.


Why have they gone after managers?

Is it because it's easier to clear Postal staff due to retirements? I wonder how many RM posties retire each month or even quit, it's probably quite a lot.

Is it because managers aren't really needed. A lot of the time I am in the depot they are just socialising with Posties or trying to get people to take out more post than they can deliver.


Most companies cut either managers or head office staff. They are paid more so make more of a saving. They will eventually replace some with new managers paid a lot less for the same job.

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25 Jun 2020, 07:48

joewyan wrote:Most companies cut either managers or head office staff. They are paid more so make more of a saving. They will eventually replace some with new managers paid a lot less for the same job.


Didn't they just up the managers wages a few months back, now they think they are paying them too much? :crazy:

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 07:49

There is plenty of managers without actual jobs in Royal Mail so I’m not surprised. I’m pretty sure there will be plenty of managers wanting a pay off to there will be at least three in my office

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 07:53

Nickvilla20 wrote:There is plenty of managers without actual jobs in Royal Mail so I’m not surprised. I’m pretty sure there will be plenty of managers wanting a pay off to there will be at least three in my office


It says there will be a cost of £150m to do it then they will save £130m every year after.

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 07:59

Probably part of a transition to a parcel delivery company, the managers would be surplus to requirement.

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 08:03

It has been obvious for a long time that RM is management heavy. All you have to do is go on strike and all of a sudden about 2000 managers show up.

I do hope they can find that 2000 figure voluntarily though. As much as I dislike most of the managers I have ever crossed they are people with families and lives. Next it will be us i'm sure.

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 08:12

No postmen or postwomwn will lose their jobs in this round of cuts was the phrase used, they are coming for us next.

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 09:03

Grumpyoldmailman wrote:2000 out of 9700 to be made redundant, saving £130m a year. Just announced in the yearly results.

Actually costing £150m to save £130m.

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 09:07

So we are making a loss while GLS are making a profit and growing all the time. How long before we are run into the ground, sold off and the company is split up. Why would a company keep the dragging limb that is UK letters and parcels when they could be running with GLS?

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 09:09

Nickvilla20 wrote:There is plenty of managers without actual jobs in Royal Mail so I’m not surprised. I’m pretty sure there will be plenty of managers wanting a pay off to there will be at least three in my office

The job cuts will mainly fall on so-called "back-office" roles, including finance, commercial and IT.

The 3 in your office might have to wait.

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25 Jun 2020, 09:11

rambo1 wrote:
Grumpyoldmailman wrote:2000 out of 9700 to be made redundant, saving £130m a year. Just announced in the yearly results.

Actually costing £150m to save £130m.

That's a very short term view.
Over 10 years it will have cost £150 million and saved £1.3 billion.

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 09:32

clashcityrocker wrote:
Nickvilla20 wrote:There is plenty of managers without actual jobs in Royal Mail so I’m not surprised. I’m pretty sure there will be plenty of managers wanting a pay off to there will be at least three in my office

The job cuts will mainly fall on so-called "back-office" roles, including finance, commercial and IT.



The 3 in your office might have to wait.


Yeah I think you’re right there

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 09:45

The USO is also going to be looked at. They also state that they are looking to reduce their planned spend on assets by 250 million over the next 2 years.

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 09:52

A manager axed at least in every MC per shift?

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 09:59

Management Structure is all over the place. Ours is a one DOM office with about 45 workers and yet in the MPU there's about a dozen managers for 150 workers. I always tell the incumbent manager to go and work at the MPU because being a singleton DOM is a sh** job.
When the DOM is on leave the acting DOM will come from out of town whereas another manager who lives close by will be sent to the acting managers office!

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 10:26

SpacePhoenix wrote:A manager axed at least in every MC per shift?


It says 2,000 non-operational managers.

2000 managers

25 Jun 2020, 11:16

Steve_claret wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:A manager axed at least in every MC per shift?


It says 2,000 non-operational managers.



Indeed and jobs that can be done by AI (Artificial Intelligence).

Interesting....

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25 Jun 2020, 11:53

Binsey wrote:
Steve_claret wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:A manager axed at least in every MC per shift?


It says 2,000 non-operational managers.



Indeed and jobs that can be done by AI.


I posted on a few days ago 20th June on the day off cover question and told you about one of my siblings telling me what is coming and I said that people were going or remaining on rap terms. Linos who stay will become team leaders. There will be no more .com support of work coaches. Most offices with less than 50 staff won't have a DOM and will be managed remotely with the team leaders (A). Just like the old PHG(A). The delivery supplement is going, or at least their going for it. Remember if you don't sign the new contract which is your basic hours x hourly rate, with no allowances your out. RM have got the union bye the balls and that's why your not heading too much from Terry and dave. This will be done over the next 18/24 months. It's the only way RM can compete against the other low paying, bullshit self employed companies that are out there. How the hell can any company compete with Amazon who pay about a pound per parcel and pkts 60pence and only when delivered and you have got a bunch of retired/ bored people out in their cars for a couple of pounds. The overwhelmingly majority do not have business insurance. Do Amazon or Hermes act give two sh***s, do they xxxx. It's not their licence. Anyway their is a good chance my sister will be leaving RM, so I will get the dirt off her because the can aren't saying s**t.

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