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Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 15:46

I've never joined, should've done to be quite honest but nobody has ever asked me to. I expected our rep to ask when I started, but he's useless to be quite honest. The only thing is I don't want a penny of mine going to the Labour party, am I right in thinking you have to opt in nowadays? And what's the best way to do it? Online? I always try and use the postal system if I can.

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 15:57

go to the cwu page, you can do it online, but you can ask for a form if you prefer, the money doesn't go to the Labour Party it goes to a political fund, but you can opt in out/ which ever it is, its worth doing, useless rep, I understand, that's why I'm doing the job now, very daunting and a lot to learn, I will make mistakes along the way, piss people off, I'm sure, but I'm here to retain hours and jobs not to be popular! why not give it a go?

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 16:05

I've been critical of them in the past and money being spent turning up at anti trump rallies ect pisses me off, I don't care about politics frankly; their job is to look out for us workers when we need it. That said, it is a good thing and we enjoy decent terms and conditions because of them; we should support them. Especially with what's coming, there's gonna be trouble down the road I reckon.

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 17:01

Waste of £4 a month.

They represented me in a disciplinary, and basically just turned up to four meetings. Absolutely f***ing hopeless.

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 17:02

Trail wrote:Waste of £4 a month.

They represented me in a disciplinary, and basically just turned up to four meetings. Absolutely f***ing hopeless.


Sorry they didnt work out for you, i had the opposite experience and they helped me out a great deal.

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 17:08

£4 a month?? Why have I been getting charged £10 a month??

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 17:21

The charge depends on your contracted hours I think.

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 17:28

postietom wrote:The charge depends on your contracted hours I think.


Maybe. I need to cancel mine anyway as I am leaving RM after 8 years in the job. Any idea how to cancel or do I just cancel the direct debit?

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 17:43

sf25 wrote:
postietom wrote:The charge depends on your contracted hours I think.


Maybe. I need to cancel mine anyway as I am leaving RM after 8 years in the job. Any idea how to cancel or do I just cancel the direct debit?

Tell your Manager I am sure he will be rubbing his hands as he does it on the PSP for you!

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 17:47

sf25 wrote:
postietom wrote:The charge depends on your contracted hours I think.


Maybe. I need to cancel mine anyway as I am leaving RM after 8 years in the job. Any idea how to cancel or do I just cancel the direct debit?


What you going on to do?

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 18:00

postietom wrote:I've never joined, should've done to be quite honest but nobody has ever asked me to. I expected our rep to ask when I started, but he's useless to be quite honest. The only thing is I don't want a penny of mine going to the Labour party, am I right in thinking you have to opt in nowadays? And what's the best way to do it? Online? I always try and use the postal system if I can.


If you think your rep is useless then why waste your money?

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 19:13

Our rep does it because nobody else wants to, I certainly wouldn't do it so I can't really blame him. He openly says he'll move aside if somebody else wants to do it so I can't really have a go. I'm gonna join to support the union, it's that simple. We're gonna need it shortly I reckon!

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 19:24

postietom wrote:Our rep does it because nobody else wants to, I certainly wouldn't do it so I can't really blame him. He openly says he'll move aside if somebody else wants to do it so I can't really have a go. I'm gonna join to support the union, it's that simple. We're gonna need it shortly I reckon!

Fair play join in some good reps some crap ones but life aint get us all hppiness good luck if you ever need helg from union..

Joining the Union

09 Jun 2019, 20:00

postietom wrote:
sf25 wrote:
postietom wrote:The charge depends on your contracted hours I think.


Maybe. I need to cancel mine anyway as I am leaving RM after 8 years in the job. Any idea how to cancel or do I just cancel the direct debit?


What you going on to do?


Going into the rail industry. Got fed up having to rely on overtime and still being a reserve after 8 years. Shame because I do enjoy the job most of the time and I like the people I work with.

Joining the Union

10 Jun 2019, 17:14

Most posties join the union as an insurance policy if they make a mistake on the job. If RM turn on you the union can usually save you unless you have done something really daft. You don't have to pay the political donation part to the Labour Party if you don't want to. Sounds like RM are going to start using the PDA data against us soon so we may all need to call on the union for assistance soon.

Joining the Union

14 Jun 2019, 17:10

Celgar wrote:Most posties join the union as an insurance policy if they make a mistake on the job. If RM turn on you the union can usually save you unless you have done something really daft. You don't have to pay the political donation part to the Labour Party if you don't want to. Sounds like RM are going to start using the PDA data against us soon so we may all need to call on the union for assistance soon.


It's actually quite shocking. To most members of the general public, Royal Mail is perceived as a friendly company (abetted in a large way by us smiling footsoldiers in shorts). Yet to anyone employed by company, RM can be the very epitome of a greedy, capitalist corporation out to grind all it can out of its staff to line the pockets of the shareholders.

And woe betide any unfortunate sod who might fail to please these masters. Which is why we have posties joining the Union for an insurance policy, as Celgar rightly describes it. Joining doesn't make you a militant Unionist or compromise any political beliefs. It just gives you access to someone who will fight your corner that time when managemant unexpectedly pull the rug from under your feet.

Joining the Union

14 Jun 2019, 19:21

Celgar wrote:Most posties join the union as an insurance policy if they make a mistake on the job. If RM turn on you the union can usually save you unless you have done something really daft. You don't have to pay the political donation part to the Labour Party if you don't want to. Sounds like RM are going to start using the PDA data against us soon so we may all need to call on the union for assistance soon.


In what way will they use it against us?

PDA data should be a blessing for a lot of Posties.....it should prove we are overworked....unless I am wrong and most are underworked and finish early all the time.

Joining the Union

14 Jun 2019, 22:29

The implication of the words & phrases that RM is currently using in the courier suggest that if postman A is doing the job in say one hour but postman B is doing the job in two hours then postman B is doing the job incorrectly. In other words RM may break their agreement on how PDA actuals data is used.

Joining the Union

14 Jun 2019, 22:32

Celgar wrote:The implication of the words & phrases that RM is currently using in the courier suggest that if postman A is doing the job in say one hour but postman B is doing the job in two hours then postman B is doing the job incorrectly. In other words RM may break their agreement on how PDA actuals data is used.

Just like any agreements rm have..

Joining the Union

15 Jun 2019, 20:58

postietom wrote:I've never joined, should've done to be quite honest but nobody has ever asked me to. I expected our rep to ask when I started, but he's useless to be quite honest. The only thing is I don't want a penny of mine going to the Labour party, am I right in thinking you have to opt in nowadays? And what's the best way to do it? Online? I always try and use the postal system if I can.


You have to approach the rep, he's not allowed to come to you about joining, it's been this way for many a year. I'd say join as soon as. Some on here say they are useless, but I'd prefer I had someone with me pissing out than pissing in.

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