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English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

15 May 2019, 09:07

lear01 wrote:I am reluctant to deliver the euro election leaflets for the English Demcrats. Some of their members have/had dubious connections to right wing organisations. Where do I stand if I refuse to deliver their leaflets?

Another snowflake, I don't like labour with their left wing anti- semitic views, but I just get on with the job and deliver the leaflets, grow a pair.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

15 May 2019, 14:37

wheresourmoney wrote:
lear01 wrote:I am reluctant to deliver the euro election leaflets for the English Demcrats. Some of their members have/had dubious connections to right wing organisations. Where do I stand if I refuse to deliver their leaflets?

Another snowflake, I don't like labour with their left wing anti- semitic views, but I just get on with the job and deliver the leaflets, grow a pair.


Seems like your one of these brainless right wing thugs

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

15 May 2019, 14:47

Does anyone read the rules? You really think snowflake, brainless thugs, and grow a pair is the sign of a civil grown up discussion.

Sometimes I question why I continue to moderate this site. After 1 PM, this and a few other threads getting nasty, this site is starting to live up to its reputation of militant, knuckle draggers who can't debate properly. Thanks for reinforcing that.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

15 May 2019, 15:42

geordieboy123 wrote:
wheresourmoney wrote:
lear01 wrote:I am reluctant to deliver the euro election leaflets for the English Demcrats. Some of their members have/had dubious connections to right wing organisations. Where do I stand if I refuse to deliver their leaflets?

Another snowflake, I don't like labour with their left wing anti- semitic views, but I just get on with the job and deliver the leaflets, grow a pair.


Seems like your one of these brainless right wing thugs

Wrong, i'm neither left or right any more,I just don't understand why people get so worked up over a piece of paper with comments on it, maybe its an age thing, but I do wonder what will happen to this country if god forbid, a war broke out, p.s I am a strict vegan but it does not stop me delivering meat product leaflets.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

15 May 2019, 15:46

wheresourmoney wrote:
geordieboy123 wrote:
wheresourmoney wrote:
lear01 wrote:I am reluctant to deliver the euro election leaflets for the English Demcrats. Some of their members have/had dubious connections to right wing organisations. Where do I stand if I refuse to deliver their leaflets?

Another snowflake, I don't like labour with their left wing anti- semitic views, but I just get on with the job and deliver the leaflets, grow a pair.


Seems like your one of these brainless right wing thugs

Wrong, i'm neither left or right any more,I just don't understand why people get so worked up over a piece of paper with comments on it, maybe its an age thing, but I do wonder what will happen to this country if god forbid, a war broke out, p.s I am a strict vegan but it does not stop me delivering meat product leaflets.

and I don't understand why you told someone to grow a pair, or that you called him a snowflake.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

15 May 2019, 21:39

POSTMAN wrote:ELECTION MATERIAL:EXTENDED DELIVERY OVERTIME ISSUE:AND MORE

Special Circumstances

It is jointly recognised that Royal Mail has a legal obligation to secure the delivery of
election material for all nominated candidates and parties.

Whilst it is expected that delivery will be made by the individual due to undertake the
particular delivery, local management will deal sensitively and sympathetically with
genuine requests to deviate from this arrangement.


Such cases may arise as a result of personal circumstances or beliefs or where an
individual believes that delivery of a particular item may incur personal risk.

If such instances arise alternative measures will be used to secure delivery. These may
include the use of volunteers from within the office or neighbouring offices to cover more
than one delivery or, as a last resort, the use of supplementary resource.


So
"Whilst it is expected that delivery will be made by the individual due to undertake the
particular delivery, local management will deal sensitively and sympathetically with
genuine requests to deviate from this arrangement."

Why is it expected?
We have to do them in our own time, surely we have a choice? If not then it's just forced overtime.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

15 May 2019, 21:58

Last time I checked English Democrats is about promoting the creation of an English parliament, to correct a democratic deficit as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have the right to a legislative assembly.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

15 May 2019, 22:33

geordieboy123 wrote:
Trail wrote:
Justanotherstar wrote:Nest them inside your d2d's so no one see's them :dance


Stick 100 in your bag (own bag, not work bag) every day and then put them in the boot of your car and set them alight when you get home. Worked for me with d2ds for quite some time.


Genius

Did you claim on your fire and theft policy on your car insurance as well must be quite expensive setting light to D2Ds in your boot every other week.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

15 May 2019, 22:48

:chuckle

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

16 May 2019, 09:03

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
wheresourmoney wrote:
geordieboy123 wrote:
wheresourmoney wrote:
lear01 wrote:I am reluctant to deliver the euro election leaflets for the English Demcrats. Some of their members have/had dubious connections to right wing organisations. Where do I stand if I refuse to deliver their leaflets?

Another snowflake, I don't like labour with their left wing anti- semitic views, but I just get on with the job and deliver the leaflets, grow a pair.


Seems like your one of these brainless right wing thugs

Wrong, i'm neither left or right any more,I just don't understand why people get so worked up over a piece of paper with comments on it, maybe its an age thing, but I do wonder what will happen to this country if god forbid, a war broke out, p.s I am a strict vegan but it does not stop me delivering meat product leaflets.

and I don't understand why you told someone to grow a pair, or that you called him a snowflake.
You
You can't understand why I called him a snowflake etc, but you can understand me being called a brainless right wing thug, even though I wrote I am against anti jewish rhetoric. go figure.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

16 May 2019, 15:06

NWpostie wrote:Last time I checked English Democrats is about promoting the creation of an English parliament, to correct a democratic deficit as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have the right to a legislative assembly.


The politics of the leaflet isn't in question, its the conscience of the person delivering them.

If we had a party that wanted communism and state control, with Gulags introduced for "traitors" and punishment collectives introduced, even I as a left winger would use the conscience clause.

Anyone can use the Conscience Clause to refuse to deliver political leaflets, even Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, if they have a reasonable reason to do so.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

16 May 2019, 15:08

wheresourmoney wrote:[You
You can't understand why I called him a snowflake etc, but you can understand me being called a brainless right wing thug, even though I wrote I am against anti jewish rhetoric. go figure.


and what was this post :roll:

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Does anyone read the rules? You really think snowflake, brainless thugs, and grow a pair is the sign of a civil grown up discussion.

Sometimes I question why I continue to moderate this site. After 1 PM, this and a few other threads getting nasty, this site is starting to live up to its reputation of militant, knuckle draggers who can't debate properly. Thanks for reinforcing that.


Thanks fors reinforcing why I am questioning if I should moderate this site, you ignored my post and then claimed I had ignored his. :cuppa :arrrghhh

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

17 May 2019, 08:37

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
NWpostie wrote:Last time I checked English Democrats is about promoting the creation of an English parliament, to correct a democratic deficit as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have the right to a legislative assembly.


The politics of the leaflet isn't in question, its the conscience of the person delivering them.

If we had a party that wanted communism and state control, with Gulags introduced for "traitors" and punishment collectives introduced, even I as a left winger would use the conscience clause.

Anyone can use the Conscience Clause to refuse to deliver political leaflets, even Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, if they have a reasonable reason to do so.


You could, in which case I could decide that I couldn't deliver any party leaflet except The Brexit Party leaflet as it would conflict with my conscience.

It would be interesting to see how that's going work out in every delivery office.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

17 May 2019, 09:50

I think most people have decided who they are going to vote for anyway,so a piece of paper coming through the letter wont make a lot of difference.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

18 May 2019, 16:31

k979aaa wrote:
geordieboy123 wrote:
Trail wrote:
Justanotherstar wrote:Nest them inside your d2d's so no one see's them :dance


Stick 100 in your bag (own bag, not work bag) every day and then put them in the boot of your car and set them alight when you get home. Worked for me with d2ds for quite some time.


Genius

Did you claim on your fire and theft policy on your car insurance as well must be quite expensive setting light to D2Ds in your boot every other week.

The bigger question is 'do you take everything you read as literal?'

Semantics, kid, semantics.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

19 May 2019, 11:28

I would never advocate the burning of live mail which includes D2D and even right wing propaganda from a bunch of NAZI's you could lose your job just tell your manager your not delivering it because you don't deliver such utter drivel and racist propaganda. Someone else will do it failing that the manager and if the manager has objections his/her manager no one should be burning mail it's not worth losing your job for a leaflet I would not wipe my arse with!

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

19 May 2019, 13:13

Its ironic that those who call others snowflakes seem to be very sensitive to criticism.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

19 May 2019, 18:30

ask yourself how much a leaflet through your door influences your voting decisions
its the same for most other people
People are influenced rightly or wrongly through tv, the internet, newspapers, youre not going to stop a political message getting through because you dont want to deliver the leaflet - someone will have to do it in the end anyway.
If you really want to go through the hassle that demanding not to deliver the leaflets then good for you, really.

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

19 May 2019, 18:54

Postie45 wrote:ask yourself how much a leaflet through your door influences your voting decisions
its the same for most other people
People are influenced rightly or wrongly through tv, the internet, newspapers, youre not going to stop a political message getting through because you dont want to deliver the leaflet - someone will have to do it in the end anyway.
If you really want to go through the hassle that demanding not to deliver the leaflets then good for you, really.

Listen just because you rightly wrongly agree with a cause in your eyes everybody else sees in different way they should be able to not participate in delivery of said propaganda the same would apply to communist leaflets not that I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT!

English Democrats euro election leaflets 2019

19 May 2019, 18:58

k979aaa wrote:Listen just because you rightly wrongly agree with a cause in your eyes everybody else sees in different way they should be able to not participate in delivery of said propaganda the same would apply to communist leaflets not that I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT!


agreed, thats why i said if someone feels strongly enough to go through the hassle of not delivering them then good for them.

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