09 Aug 2017, 19:25
09 Aug 2017, 19:28
you don't have to do it,robbertwhitton wrote:So love the 6 hour delivery while lapsing.......makes a day of it ???
09 Aug 2017, 19:43
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10 Aug 2017, 06:40
eastie wrote:Hardly ever lapse as work to my time.
Don't fprget that runners will be moaning soon finishing early as data from PDA's are going to be checked and if you finish early you will have more added to your round
10 Aug 2017, 18:42
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10 Aug 2017, 19:47
postslippete wrote:Actually I completely understand. We have an over-running procedure that is positively medieval and really needs updated by the CWU to bring it up to the present day times to reflect RM's slash and burn strategy . . . Most posties don't want the hassle of it all and its about time the CWU started to get a grip on Royal Mail's practices. But they never do. They leave it all for the individual postie to sort out. Its almost like we pay them subs and they are there but they are not there if you know what I mean??
10 Aug 2017, 19:47
postslippete wrote:Actually I completely understand. We have an over-running procedure that is positively medieval and really needs updated by the CWU to bring it up to the present day times to reflect RM's slash and burn strategy. Because it seems to be a scenario that gets played in our office on a regular basis. For example, it did'nt make sense to lapse on a busy day and the reason I heard from management is that we lapse because of staff on sick
And its like, well I certainly don't intend to take the lapse when my own delivery will take me way past my finish time. So erm... what are you going to about it Mr manager?? Manager: well, what if you leave a few packets?? Me: well, that will still leave me with another hour or so past my finish time, so what about a couple of loops instead? Manager: Well, it would better if you leave a few packets me: Ok, what if I leave a few packets for you and ring you up whilst I am still out on delivery to remind you of what I have got left, so that I don't work past my time? Manager: well, then its a performance issue isn't it? Me: Why is it a performance issue?; Have I actually been measured on my performance? Manager: Well, everyone else seems to be managing Ok Me: But how are they performing Ok if they are working past their finish time?
This discussion went on and on and its like the manager was trying to bully me into taking work that I really didn't want to do. This is not how you expect a 1st class company to be run with managers trying to bully and coerce staff in taking the work. In the end, the manager got the DOM who then tried piling on some additional pressure, but it didn't work DOM: well, there are not many packets on the frame Me: Well, thats why I would rather not leave any packets but leave a few loops instead as its busy mail wise. What do you want me to do, because its getting late now and we can keep talking about this or we can actually do something. Would you rather me take all the mail out with me or leave a few loops?? DOM: Well we are short-staffed, could you leave one loop instead of two perhaps??
And its like I am being FORCED to work past my time. I stuck to my guns and made the point that because I was stood there disagree-ing with this manager for 10 minutes that I would need more than one loop taken off. In the end I got my own way, but boy was that hard work!!
You know is it any wonder staff just come in early, don't take breaks, ignore managers like the plague and get on with it, being forced to take overtime even though they don't really want it. Most posties don't want the hassle of it all and its about time the CWU started to get a grip on Royal Mail's practices. But they never do. They leave it all for the individual postie to sort out. Its almost like we pay them subs and they are there but they are not there if you know what I mean??
10 Aug 2017, 19:58
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10 Aug 2017, 20:19
osgoody1970 wrote:and this for me, is the problem with the lapsing procedure, it just gives managers a green light to bully and cajole posties into working over their time and that's not what the lapsing procedure was designed to do!!!