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Special delivery concerns
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postality
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Special delivery concerns
Had a special delivery today for an address towards the end of my duty, i turned up at the guys house at 2:30 to find him on the phone chasing it up and very worried.
It was his passport and when he traced it online it showed as being delivered before 1pm, he in turn contacted passport office who also said it was showing as being delivered and must be with a neighbour.
I apologised and explained that i would never have left a special with a neighbour and advised him to make an official complaint.
My point is that my office is scanning specials every day as delivered on time regardless wether they have been or not, this is the third time ive had this kind of complaint and im getting a bit pissed trying to explain that i have no time to break off and do them before 1pm to customers and managers alike..
Our performance figures show a high 90's % success rate on specials which I know is bollocks when it comes to time delivered...
Are the management wrong to be doing this? surely they must be fiddling it , and what can I do about it? not just for me but for my full office, our most expensive product being treat like it dont matter, it stinks.
Advice appreciated
It was his passport and when he traced it online it showed as being delivered before 1pm, he in turn contacted passport office who also said it was showing as being delivered and must be with a neighbour.
I apologised and explained that i would never have left a special with a neighbour and advised him to make an official complaint.
My point is that my office is scanning specials every day as delivered on time regardless wether they have been or not, this is the third time ive had this kind of complaint and im getting a bit pissed trying to explain that i have no time to break off and do them before 1pm to customers and managers alike..
Our performance figures show a high 90's % success rate on specials which I know is bollocks when it comes to time delivered...
Are the management wrong to be doing this? surely they must be fiddling it , and what can I do about it? not just for me but for my full office, our most expensive product being treat like it dont matter, it stinks.
Advice appreciated
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Special delivery concerns
I assume you are still using paper and pen.
We'll all have PDAs by the end of the year and it will cease to be an issue.
We'll all have PDAs by the end of the year and it will cease to be an issue.
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DGP1
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Re: Special delivery concerns
I take it you where using pen and paper?
You are right that management shouldn't be scanning in specials as delivered before 1pm without them being delivered but they do because they can and it gets the DSM from shouting at them in the daily conference call.
You are right that management shouldn't be scanning in specials as delivered before 1pm without them being delivered but they do because they can and it gets the DSM from shouting at them in the daily conference call.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Special delivery concerns
It isn't managers that do the scanning, it is normally the PHG/locker staff.DGP1 wrote:
You are right that management shouldn't be scanning in specials as delivered before 1pm without them being delivered but they do because they can and it gets the DSM from shouting at them in the daily conference call.
If you deliver a SD at 11am but don't tell them until 14.30 when you get back off delivery, if they confirm it as delivered then it will show up as a failure on the system. When it isn't.
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postality
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Re: Special delivery concerns
clashcityrocker wrote:It isn't managers that do the scanning, it is normally the PHG/locker staff.DGP1 wrote:
You are right that management shouldn't be scanning in specials as delivered before 1pm without them being delivered but they do because they can and it gets the DSM from shouting at them in the daily conference call.
If you deliver a SD at 11am but don't tell them until 14.30 when you get back off delivery, if they confirm it as delivered then it will show up as a failure on the system. When it isn't.
What about when it is a failure?
sometimes pen and paper sometimes PDA depends if its in my bag..
The issue though is that the customer has an uncomfortable hour or 2 thinking his special has gone missing.
also when the customer rightly tries to claim compo or complain they have no case as item is being shown as delivered on time
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Pat Ostman
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Re: Special delivery concerns
Why does it depend if the PDA is in your bag?postality wrote:clashcityrocker wrote:It isn't managers that do the scanning, it is normally the PHG/locker staff.DGP1 wrote:
You are right that management shouldn't be scanning in specials as delivered before 1pm without them being delivered but they do because they can and it gets the DSM from shouting at them in the daily conference call.
If you deliver a SD at 11am but don't tell them until 14.30 when you get back off delivery, if they confirm it as delivered then it will show up as a failure on the system. When it isn't.
What about when it is a failure?
sometimes pen and paper sometimes PDA depends if its in my bag..
The issue though is that the customer has an uncomfortable hour or 2 thinking his special has gone missing.
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postality
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Re: Special delivery concerns
if pda isnt in my bag i'll get a signature on a card, if it is ill use pdaPat Ostman wrote:Why does it depend if the PDA is in your bag?postality wrote:clashcityrocker wrote:It isn't managers that do the scanning, it is normally the PHG/locker staff.DGP1 wrote:
You are right that management shouldn't be scanning in specials as delivered before 1pm without them being delivered but they do because they can and it gets the DSM from shouting at them in the daily conference call.
If you deliver a SD at 11am but don't tell them until 14.30 when you get back off delivery, if they confirm it as delivered then it will show up as a failure on the system. When it isn't.
What about when it is a failure?
sometimes pen and paper sometimes PDA depends if its in my bag..
The issue though is that the customer has an uncomfortable hour or 2 thinking his special has gone missing.
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DGP1
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Re: Special delivery concerns
postality wrote:if pda isnt in my bag i'll get a signature on a card, if it is ill use pdaPat Ostman wrote:Why does it depend if the PDA is in your bag?postality wrote:clashcityrocker wrote:It isn't managers that do the scanning, it is normally the PHG/locker staff.DGP1 wrote:
You are right that management shouldn't be scanning in specials as delivered before 1pm without them being delivered but they do because they can and it gets the DSM from shouting at them in the daily conference call.
If you deliver a SD at 11am but don't tell them until 14.30 when you get back off delivery, if they confirm it as delivered then it will show up as a failure on the system. When it isn't.
What about when it is a failure?
sometimes pen and paper sometimes PDA depends if its in my bag..
The issue though is that the customer has an uncomfortable hour or 2 thinking his special has gone missing.
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Re: Special delivery concerns
could be a pairing with 1 PDA - bit of an own goal by RM if you have concurrent loops that have signature required items.
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DGP1
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Re: Special delivery concerns
The managers give OK for this to happen anyway, it seems that the OP has a PDA but doesn't use it all the time which means that the locker staff shouldn't be doing anything about specials while the OP is out and only scanning in returns if they come back.clashcityrocker wrote:It isn't managers that do the scanning, it is normally the PHG/locker staff.DGP1 wrote:
You are right that management shouldn't be scanning in specials as delivered before 1pm without them being delivered but they do because they can and it gets the DSM from shouting at them in the daily conference call.
If you deliver a SD at 11am but don't tell them until 14.30 when you get back off delivery, if they confirm it as delivered then it will show up as a failure on the system. When it isn't.
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motch
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Re: Special delivery concerns
I'd rather use Pen and Paper when i can get away with doing just that. The PDA's are heavy and are they safe to use? 100%? where's the health reports on these.
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postality
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Re: Special delivery concerns
OkDGP1 wrote:postality wrote:if pda isnt in my bag i'll get a signature on a card, if it is ill use pdaPat Ostman wrote:Why does it depend if the PDA is in your bag?postality wrote:clashcityrocker wrote:It isn't managers that do the scanning, it is normally the PHG/locker staff.DGP1 wrote:
You are right that management shouldn't be scanning in specials as delivered before 1pm without them being delivered but they do because they can and it gets the DSM from shouting at them in the daily conference call.
If you deliver a SD at 11am but don't tell them until 14.30 when you get back off delivery, if they confirm it as delivered then it will show up as a failure on the system. When it isn't.
What about when it is a failure?
sometimes pen and paper sometimes PDA depends if its in my bag..
The issue though is that the customer has an uncomfortable hour or 2 thinking his special has gone missing.Why would you not have a PDA with you, you take it with you when you have anything to be signed for, I don't understand why you don't do that.
1 Only have 1 pda between 2 if buddy needs it he takes it
2 as nearing end of delivery it's usually ran out of charge
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Special delivery concerns
The paper has the time he signed.postality wrote: What about when it is a failure?
also when the customer rightly tries to claim compo or complain they have no case as item is being shown as delivered on time
That is all the proof he needs to claim compensation.
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postality
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Re: Special delivery concerns
clashcityrocker wrote:The paper has the time he signed.postality wrote: What about when it is a failure?
also when the customer rightly tries to claim compo or complain they have no case as item is being shown as delivered on time
That is all the proof he needs to claim compensation.
Good i encouraged him to do so
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motch
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Re: Special delivery concerns
Is the postie at fault if the special gets there after 1pm? as manager would say he told postie to cut off deliver/try to deliver Specials before 1pm and them return to walk as normal. When postie cuts off (at end of duty) manager could just say posties not quick enough too.